Body
Bart,
Rick said Johns brother knew nothing about electronics not John. I
spoke to Rick for a couple hours a few months back, some of what he told
me was intriguing about his and Johns falling out. Rick said he came up
with the idea of the large multicore kits and John agreed but left Rick
mostly on his own to build them. Everything was hunky dory until Rick
built the boat with the electric motor and Bedini charging system, this
according to Rick of course. He said John had said to him in passing
prior be careful don't build anything too big but just in passing never
with any sort of urgency.
Rick built a boat and was giving people rides and he said it is after
that point John became unfriendly to him and while before he was treated
with respect and golden afterwards he was the brunt of Johns many jokes
and insults. He said had he understood the building something bigger
was really a serious warning not to he would not have but he always took
it as the sort of running line like the boogieman will come. He said
the point of him breaching any rule or guideline was never discussed
afterwards only the daily surliness of John to him was apparent. Rick
said this was his best guess of the transgression but he could only
interpret by time and action, not a direct reprimand.
So this is the story from Rick who seemed to me sincere and much kinder
a person than the few times I spoke to John on the phone back in the
80's after I told him I was a recording engineer he became ultra short
and snitty.
Not claiming John was lacking as a great teacher and resource or in any
way clouding his memory just reporting the facts as best I am aware. As
one can imagine after a long chat there were many other facets but
perhaps another time.
Mick
On 11/19/2018 7:26 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> Hello Warren
>
> Sure do! It has been having myself reflect on things over the years.
> Whats it been ten now I think?
>
> I kept John busy while you were up stairs going through builds with
> Rick! lol
>
> John and I must have smoked a pack a day . Once Tom Beardon called,
> John put him on speaker , all I said was hi! lol
>
> It was when John was coming out with his ten coiler and was nervous
> about his security, I offered he, Gary and Tom to sell them in Canada.
>
> Tom thought it was a good idea.
>
> But Rick put the brakes on it. I think Rick said he has his parents in
> Mississauga or some wheres . Rick recently released a video stating
> John new nothing about
>
> electronics. I will try to find it if you have not seen it. I did buy
> Ricks run charge circuit and modified it with some coil bangers. I
> managed to get 850 volts and 40 - 8o amps.
>
> Out of a 12 volt lead acid. Then my shop got broken into. The older
> retired electronics engineer Keith had helped me with it.
>
> I asked John about Ron Cole I think was the name of the fellow whom
> had a battery run cold and at 17.5 volts or some thing.
>
> From an old large wheel build like a hit and miss design. John said he
> and Ron sketched out some circuits on napkins and they got posted on line.
>
> Then Ron disappeared from a meet and greet showing of builds one
> weekend. When Ron returned from where ever ,he said Ron never spoke to
> him again.
>
> If you recall John said the magna coaster box was nothing more than a
> ferro inverter. You have it on vid I think.
>
> I remember asking John , what do you suggest I build in order to
> secure independence? His answer was , a giant mono-pole with a cam out
> the side of a building.
>
> Warren we both agreed on acquiring at least one thing while out
> seeing him. We agreed on the Kromrey. I remember John saying use the
> same magnets as the monopole
>
> You had said you are going to use permanent and think John said you
> might have a problem with switching! I do not recall how efficient
> Johns unit ran at 40watt ou? Or maybe more? May I suggest building
> another with the weaker mags. i would like to purchase his if
> possible. He said he had it given to him from a widower in Germany
> again I think?
>
> Warren Johns gone now , with respect I speak this. You however have
> currently a good group here with some veteran like talents. Norm,
> H,Ole, Kone and so on.
>
> Please focus on a working devise and commit to it long enough for
> results. As this to shall pass! I see this forum as a social group
> more than anything else.
>
> Rather than just collecting the regular wall of shame, get some thing
> working.
>
> I am not playing the insult please. I can not stay focused myself with
> as much commitment here as others,,, so whom am I to say.
>
> But the time I sense is here and now!
>
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 18, 2018 10:03 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
>
> Hey Bart
>
> Remember Bedini's shop?
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 1:38 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> James
>
> On the recycling of exhaust event. On your 30 to
> 60% value with an end result of 100% plus or minus.
>
> There would be a gain should some one look at increasing the
> embodiment factor on the molecule chain along with the recycled
> thermal value.
>
> hho or hhoi or what ever have you, currently only standard builds
> have a short slap on the work effort value @ approx 9 times faster
> than fossil.
>
> Look at increasing the work time schedule by increasing the
> element count on the molecule. In another words increase the chain.
>
> My 5 gas analyzer has been borrowed by the thieves otherwise I may
> be able to say with more definition' .As you would not want to
> just breath in the exhaust.
>
> You can always modify the exhaust for the exhaust particles desired.
>
> Currently I need a controller to test the latest. Now testing
> rotary. I will post a vid.
>
>
> Bart
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
> of Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 18, 2018 4:01 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
>
> James
>
> As a diver, one atmosphere is 15lbs(wroughly) or 30 ft, which is
> even less pressure, and can raise, or drop, a tiny bit with
> atmospheric change, or elevation..
> Little bubbles can raise a sunken ship, weighing hundreds of tons,
> and locks and displacement were ancient marvels of marine science,
> so recently taken for granted.
> Spend time musing in the aquarium section of a pet store at the
> various bubble driven underwater toys in fish tanks.
> A divers buoyancy compansator can shoot you to the surface, if you
> over inflate it, or air bags lift sunken cannon as easy as an
> elevator, or crane.
> When you change practical disciplines, you keep finding little
> cracks in the engineering envelope of science. It is amazing how
> trades keep to themselves, their quirky little secret discoveries,
> which viewed in a brighter light, might just be over unity, or
> not, depending on the observer's interests.
> The fact is, we are surrounded by the "magic" of over unity, when
> we combine physics, chemistry, biology, and philosophy, yet our
> education system tends to create specialists, rather than those
> useless kids who just take one course, after another, in any
> subject that interests them, never seeming to get a real job, and
> being a drain on the family finances.
> Engineers, are specialists vectored to solve specific problems.
> One can never take for granted how weird shit like religion, or
> politics does not come into to the reality filters, when you are
> staring straight at over unity, there, in front of you.
> My advice is to bench test stuff yourself, if you can, and from
> there build your own personal encyclopedia of solutions that work,
> realizing that every bit of information you receive is filtered a
> little by every editor, or each of us, according to self
> awareness, and biases, and then passed on to others.
> Nobody has the time to bench test everything themselves, so we
> build a network of reliable sources, and hope they don't screw up,
> and fall to pieces, in a media overloaded era.
> On top of all of this is the paranoia laced notion that there are
> actually are jerks out there, trying to intentionally misinform,
> because they are on some crazed agenda, or somebody's paid
> stooges, working for a service.
> In short, your idea has merit, so devise a simple little test, out
> of common stuff, and try it out.
> Hot glue is waterproof.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 2:07 PM, James Glinski
> [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On the water topic I'm thinking this idea of using hho to
> drive a buoyancy generator is a path to over unity .here is
> why .say you got a bolancy generator that you only get out
> what you put in it ..say 100 watt in and a 100 Watts out or
> slightly less it's not OU but some have claimed a 30% OU using
> a air compressor .with using a HHO Meyer style system you get
> your energy back to run the electronics and keep things going
> or a little less than that .being it's still not OU .but near
> the OU generally but not there yet ..now add the explosive
> power of the HHO to the mix .that's OU for shure two uses for
> the gas .and no compressor needed .it can generate the gas
> under pressure .some guys have run there systems at 30 psi
> some at 60 psi .that means at 30 you can go down around 29 to
> 30 ft of water and raise a column of water with a bubble of
> HHO and it will expand as the psi comes off of it as it rises.
> That just extra .more than what you put into it .the deeper
> you go the more you raise the more you move Thu your generator
> .then run a 4 stroke generator on the gas .win win win .it's
> got to work .I don't see any reason why not !.your getting
> tripple leverage out of one energy source .even with using the
> worst efficiency's.it <http://s.it>'s over the top...most are
> happy with just braking even this is much more .if we can find
> ways to create energy that has more then just one use or job
> by getting it to do two or three things man oh man we will be
> there and start working on transcoding it in to use full items
> .like water fertilizer,. Heat..ect.and get off this hunt .
>
> On Thursday, November 15, 2018, george gray
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Bart.
> George
>
>
> On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 2:52:20 pm AEDT, bart
> woodard [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
> George,
> I have not disclosed as of yet how I make
> mine as it still seems to be an interest to manufacturer them.
> You can how ever get similar results which take longer but
> does work using a magnetic stirrer.
> Use distilled water and run the distilled for an hour or
> less to increase the ph.
> Most distilled water comes 6.2 or so , try to get the ph
> to spike then settle to 7.4 making it alkaline.
> Crush up your vitamins or what have you and throw them in.
> Works great......
>
> https://hannainst.com/hi190m- 1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
> <https://hannainst..com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna
> Instruments
> <https://hannainst..com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> hannainst.com <http://hannainst.com>
> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with
> plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small
> footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of george gray
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* November 13, 2018 10:20 PM
> *To:* bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
> Bart,
>
> I haven't looked up the links yet. Will they show me how
> to make this water? Or can you tell me how to make this
> water?
>
> George
>
>
> On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 7:10:14 am AEDT, bart
> woodard [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Ok well I did not meaningly want to create any miss
> directions here but did , coming from a frustrated
> exercised value mostly.
>
> This is primarily a Tesla group really. Tesla showed signs
> of ocd , but really who can blame him as mankind boxed him
> in then disregarded him.
>
> Not all symptoms and diseases are related or have the
> same values, tho they may be similar.
>
> The water I make is 4 to 8 times smaller molecular size
> with little to no carcinogens , as there is no such thing
> as having a zero carcinogen value.
>
> I make it from distilled. It is highly charged. So it
> helps with many issues, the wife however says its not
> clinically proven so really no reports or claims may be
> made only by private means.
>
> Individual results have come in and are coming in on a
> steady basis with positive results on all counts on
> physical health and mental,
>
> Here is what I believe that may be happening combined with
> digestive value problems mostly regarding autism in this
> chat.
>
> Whether or not its due to a lack of enzymes acting as a
> catalyst or whether or not the stomach intelligence is not
> engaged with our *Vagus Nerve*
> <https://www.lifeadvancer.com/vagus-nerve-migraines-inflammation-depression>
>
> A quick link
>
> https://www.learning-mind.com/
> scientists-discovered-second- brain-in-the-human-body/
> <https://www.learning-mind.com/scientists-discovered-second-brain-in-the-human-body/>
>
>
> So the highly charged water is now delivered through out
> the body via hydration substrate. The blood becomes
> aerobic with a strong supported charge delivering
>
> any value you wish to any area you wish.
>
>
>
> http://www.lavidadolce.com/ nerd-alert-measuring-
> brainwaves-could-lead-to-an- objective-autism-diagnosis/
> <http://www.lavidadolce.com/nerd-alert-measuring-brainwaves-could-lead-to-an-objective-autism-diagnosis/>
>
>
> While the body detoxes , healing immediately starts to
> occur. Whether it be migraines, blood passages , muscles etc.
>
> Autistic people seemed trapped with in and can not express
> them selves. Some exercise intelligence with in and
> express it by means of anger through frustration.
>
>
> When they drink the water they no longer express them
> selves through anger and seem more communicative.
>
> I feel with an exercise on a regular program , the water
> could assist or even cure the problem for some.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of george gray
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* November 13, 2018 9:04 AM
> *To:* bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
> Bart,
>
> Tell me about your water that would help the children with
> autism.
>
> George
>
> On Tuesday, 13 November 2018, 9:29:47 am AEDT, bart
> woodard [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Mick Kone
>
> Kone as usual your advice and words
> do not go unheard. Thank you.
>
> Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the
> yesterday day becomes the old way .
>
> As well, the rules change on a constant.
>
> Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits
> and own the convenience store as well as the shopping
> mall, your local politician, cop , school teacher and so on.
>
> Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as
> individuals so much. Canada is looked at as mini America
> more globally now. Trying its best to benefit from
> Americas mistakes and create a new path economically.
>
> Such as growing dope, developing AI etc.
>
> As I mentioned I went to India for six months and
> befriended some ministers, wow corruption at its best.
> But there , its the way of life.
>
> Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same
> exercise, just different facades. Its mankind's crap of
> order, tho it is at least that I suppose.
>
> But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have
> even mentioned it.
>
> The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went
> the weekend before last to visit our daughter.
>
> We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on
> our doorstep from the University lol
>
> he is Indian (India) . His girlfriend also came along .
> We managed to get them employment where my daughter was
> working at.
>
> A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do
> think my water would help the children but daughter said
> its not certified , So no we could not.
>
> Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some
> studies. But the wife says its not clinically proven.
>
> While there we went to Banff
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Banff,_Alberta
> <https://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>
> Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia
> <https://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
> en.wikipedia.org <http://en.wikipedia.org>
> Banff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta,
> Canada.It is located in Alberta's Rockies along the
> Trans-Canada Highway, approximately 126 km (78 mi) west of
> Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of Lake Louise.At an
> elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630 m (5,350 ft),
> Banff is the community with the second highest elevation
> in Alberta after Lake Louise.
>
> We went up on the Gondola and had lunch. Vinay our son
> from India says yup we are up where the goats screw and
> the eagles fly!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Mick
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
>
> Kone,
>
> Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon,
> that's the old days of growing I think. I was waiting for
> big gang shootouts too, never happened. Since they can't
> use banks they drive the cash up to Salem to pay the
> taxes. These dispensary people are traveling with big
> dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow
> operation. It takes trucks to move all they are growing
> now. I know some grower folks who were doing close to a
> million a year, now prices have dropped and everything
> taxed they are barely getting by. Money here was
> supposed to go to the cops but they are complaining about
> shortfalls and writing bonds for new jails and other
> bullshit. Just like the lotto going to schools the weed
> money is being stolen by the govn mafia. A few months
> back there was a release of the PERS retirement data for
> govn workers. Many of these people are making more than
> they ever did working sometimes double and high six
> figures. Meanwhile they keep raising the property tax
> each year to pay these retirements of which they are
> claiming we are 22 billion in the red.
>
> Check out this shit:
>
> https://gov.oregonlive.com/ pers/
> <https://gov...oregonlive.com/pers/>
>
> <https://gov.oregonlive..com/pers/>
>
> Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...
> <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
> gov.oregonlive.com <http://gov.oregonlive..com>
> Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits from the
> Oregon Public Employees Retirement System as of Jan. 1, 2018.
>
>
> On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Bart
>>
>> Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>>
>> Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs
>> (russian bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc)
>> finding where is grow operation then breaking in and
>> stealing everything as soon as.its ready for market. What
>> are you going to do shoot everyone? Cops can be put in
>> caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in
>> world, carry guns, look out for only themselves get away
>> with.murder all the time.
>> Let those guys with small army private army do the
>> growing you could provide technical expertise...look into
>> putting neodymium magnet under roots of plants.. pot
>> itself not so bad but what they will dip the shitty
>> leftover in is what is fucked up formaldahyde (aka dank)
>> , meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what
>> is in the shit...legal is good since you know what it is
>> at least but those already established illegal pot
>> growers are pissed when it goes legal and will break in
>> and steal no problem if site becomes known...in your town
>> I think is biker gangs controlling weed market...biker
>> gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
>> Kone
>>
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