Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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BartIt would be so cool to find sitting in one of those closed up warehouses in Buffalo, Tesla's car, wouldn't it?I thought of writing a novel about the car, in Buffalo, complete with gangsters, and German spies, typical investors, killing each other, while Tesla fed his pigeons, and the car just remains, still sitting in the abandoned warehouse, bricked up, to this day, a sorry, sad tale of genius,greed and power, in a historical context, with a feature of free energy thrown in.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 8:52 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

I could be wrongly recallingbut in an article on when Tesla was taking his nephew for a ride.He sent ahead plans and build discription for a modified build to Buffalo I think. I will try to look for it when I return home as I am shopping with the wife lol


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From: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2018-11-18 8:14 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery 

 


Bart,

How did you find data on Tesla using an aluminum rod for his car, this is interesting?



On 11/18/2018 3:07 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:

 


 James,

                A drawing with some values in general of some type would be helpful in description of your idea,s. 

I have spent a great deal of time , monies , and a large effort in acquiring the now knowledge as I am sure it will also be modified again or

morphed into some anew. I investigated all parties by means of traveling to their past lives, family members, their shops, their past  work places with coworkers etc.

What really happened to them yada yada yada yada. Was even offered Stans buggy at one time.

For the most part I conceive all value as utterly nonsense. Meyers,Puharich,Anderson etc. Unless you can split the molecule then reunite it in the cylinder with perfect timing (such as Stans spark plug) then it is invalid.   Between the high voltage, spark plug and high volume displacement it is conceivable. The only other way with any practicality is volume displacement. Create enough to keep a scheduled demand for an estimated payload .

Still in the obvious, the output must exceed the input in relationship with Fleishman and Pons.

I have heard many claims , here is one , I talked with a gentleman once whom claimed to loop a 2 stroke mcculloch chain saw motor and that it ran for weeks lighting a 60watt light bulb, I did not however get to witness it, so not valid.

Once again there was a group in my shop when I was running a cell up to 150lbs . A party had gotten on my lab top and skyped Bob Boyce .

They came out to me while running the generator and asked "Bob wants to know how you are injecting it"?  Then he invited us to his shop some wheres in Florida I think.




Well truth is I was not injecting it , and they could see this! I was just setting the fuel line as close to the intake valve as possible, securing it, then regulating the fuel...

So obviously the real question was how are you getting this pressure?


At the time I was only getting 20 to 35 minutes on a 5k generator at best with no load. As for timing I was using a msd hall effect device.

There is never anything for nothing, even Tesla used a aluminum rod of some kind running his car down the highway.

I have no quick answers for you James . Only to say batteries are getting better , circuits are getting more efficient and better managed , for now solar and wind are getting cheaper.









From:[email protected]<[email protected]> on behalf of James [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
Sent: November 18, 2018 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery  
Bart
 I guess the point is there's much debate about OU and much effort in the creation of OU many have gone down a dead end .here's a way to compound efficiencies by compounding the different properties .most go with just one way or die .here the buoyancy makes the hho electronics free .and puts it even further in to OU . as a concept of using two or more properties of two or more types of energy creation we might finely put it over for everyone .not just the well funded but the poorly funded .hho running a four stroke is  good way to get there .it just the using of properties that might just go wasted this combo replaces the compressor in the buoyancy scheme changing the parameters of that device .and by doing that you change the efficiency of the hho device .now both should be OU . looking for OU by combining concepts might generate new pathways that are not dead ends .for some who know nothing but dead ends ..I'm of coming at now finishing my hho set up .its been in storage for several years I ran in to a problem with connecting the 316 SS wires to the tubes with out welding and I didn't seem to have options here were I live .and its just to tall I might cut it in half and make two shorter ones .which complicates and increases cost .I don't care at this time to join it to a generator I'm going with a bicycle motor about 49 cc a four stroke it's cheap and I can work out the bugs easier then go with a larger gen motor .having to cut a new key way at 2 deg past tdc is the problem here in the boonies .and once done it's still would be useable as a motor with a Muller type gen. .and I can find out just how little hho it  takes to run it .thats  about a 1/2 to 3/4 horse .in would like to see just how small I can get with it .running 24/7 at 3/4 horse would handle just about everything here .and be very portable for other issues. I'm just  looking for multiple path ways to the same goal of sustainability out here in the boonies.  3 would be nice.

On Sunday, November 18, 2018, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 
James 


               On the recycling of exhaust event. On your 30 to 60% value with an end result of 100% plus or minus.

There would be a gain should some one look at increasing the embodiment factor on the molecule chain along with the recycled thermal value.

hho or hhoi  or what ever have you, currently only standard builds have a short slap on the work effort value @ approx 9 times faster than fossil.

Look at increasing the work time schedule by increasing the element count on the molecule. In another words increase the chain.

My 5 gas analyzer has been borrowed by the thieves otherwise I may be able to say with more definition' .As you would not want to just breath in the exhaust.

You can always modify the exhaust for the exhaust particles desired.


Currently I need a controller to test the latest. Now testing rotary.  I will post a vid.


Bart
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Warren [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 18, 2018 4:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery  
James
As a diver, one atmosphere is 15lbs(wroughly) or 30 ft, which is even less pressure, and can raise, or drop, a tiny bit with atmospheric change, or elevation. Little bubbles can raise a sunken ship, weighing hundreds of tons, and locks and displacement were ancient marvels of marine science, so recently taken for granted.
Spend time musing in the aquarium section of a pet store at the various bubble driven underwater toys in fish tanks.A divers buoyancy compansator can shoot you to the surface, if you over inflate it, or air bags lift sunken cannon as easy as an elevator, or crane.When you change practical disciplines, you keep finding little cracks in the engineering envelope of science. It is amazing how trades keep to themselves, their quirky little secret discoveries, which viewed in a brighter light, might just be over unity, or not, depending on the observer's interests.The fact is, we are surrounded by the "magic" of over unity, when we combine physics, chemistry, biology, and philosophy, yet our education system tends to create specialists, rather than those useless kids who just take one course, after another, in any subject that interests them, never seeming to get a real job, and being a drain on the family finances.Engineers, are specialists vectored to solve specific problems.One can never take for granted how weird shit like religion, or politics does not come into to the reality filters, when you are staring straight at over unity, there, in front of you.My advice is to bench test stuff yourself, if you can, and from there build your own personal encyclopedia of solutions that work, realizing that every bit of information you receive is filtered a little by every editor, or each of us, according to self awareness, and biases, and then passed on to others.Nobody has the time to bench test everything themselves, so we build a network of reliable sources, and hope they don't screw up, and fall to pieces, in a media overloaded era.On top of all of this is the paranoia laced notion that there are actually are jerks out there, trying to intentionally  misinform, because they are on some crazed agenda, or somebody's paid stooges, working for a service.In short, your idea has merit, so devise a simple little test, out of common stuff, and try it out.Hot glue is waterproof.Cheers Warren
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 2:07 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
On the water topic I'm thinking this idea of using hho to drive a buoyancy generator is a path to over unity .here is why .say you got a bolancy generator that you only get out what you put in it ..say 100 watt in and a 100 Watts out or slightly less it's not OU but some have claimed a 30% OU using a air compressor .with using a HHO Meyer style system you get your energy back to run the electronics and keep things going or a little less than that .being it's still not OU ..but near the OU generally but not there yet ..now add the explosive power of the HHO to the mix .that's  OU for shure two uses for the gas .and no compressor needed .it can generate the gas under pressure .some guys have run there systems at 30 psi some at 60 psi .that means at 30 you can go down around 29 to 30 ft of water and raise  a column of water with  a bubble of HHO and it will expand as the psi comes off of it as it rises. That just extra .more than what you put into it .the deeper you go the more you raise the more you move Thu your generator .then run a 4 stroke generator on the gas .win win win .it's got to work .I don't see any reason why not !.your getting tripple leverage out of one energy source .even with using the worst efficiency's.it's over the top...most are happy with just braking even this is much more .if we can find ways to create energy that has more then just one use or job by getting it to do two or three things man oh man  we will be there and start working on transcoding it in to use full items .like water fertilizer,. Heat..ect.and get off this hunt .

On Thursday, November 15, 2018, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 Thanks Bart.George

On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 2:52:20 pm AEDT, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 George,                I have not disclosed as of yet how I make mine as it still seems to be an interest to manufacturer them.You can how ever get similar results which take longer but does work using a magnetic stirrer.Use distilled water and run the distilled for an hour or less to increase the ph.Most distilled water comes 6.2 or so , try to get the ph to spike then settle to 7.4 making it alkaline.Crush up your vitamins or what have you and throw them in. Works great.......

https://hannainst.com/hi190m- 1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
| Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instrumentshannainst.comCompact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab! |






From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of george [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 13, 2018 10:20 PM
To: bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery  Bart,
I haven't looked up the links yet.  Will they show me how to make this water?  Or can you tell me how to make this water?
George

On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 7:10:14 am AEDT, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Ok well I did not meaningly want to create any miss directions here but did , coming from a frustrated exercised  value mostly.

This is primarily a Tesla group really. Tesla showed signs of ocd , but really who can blame him as mankind boxed him in then disregarded him.


Not all symptoms and diseases are  related or have the same values, tho they may be similar.


The water I make is  4 to 8 times smaller molecular size with little to no carcinogens , as there is no such thing as having a zero carcinogen value.

I make it from distilled. It is highly charged. So it helps with many issues,  the wife however says its not clinically proven so really no reports or claims may be made only by private means.

Individual results have come in and are coming in on a steady basis with positive results on all counts on physical health and mental,


Here is what I believe that may be happening combined with digestive value problems mostly regarding autism in this chat. 

Whether or not its due to a lack of enzymes acting as a catalyst or whether or not the stomach intelligence is not engaged with our Vagus Nerve

A quick link

https://www.learning-mind.com/ scientists-discovered-second- brain-in-the-human-body/





So the highly charged water is now delivered through out the body via hydration substrate. The blood becomes aerobic with a strong supported charge delivering


any value you wish to any area you wish.







http://www.lavidadolce.com/ nerd-alert-measuring- brainwaves-could-lead-to-an- objective-autism-diagnosis/




While the body detoxes , healing immediately starts to occur. Whether it be migraines, blood passages , muscles etc.

Autistic people seemed trapped with in and can not express them selves. Some exercise intelligence with in and express it by means of anger through frustration.





When they drink the water they no longer express them selves through anger and seem more communicative.

I feel with an exercise on a regular program , the water could assist or even cure the problem for some.















From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of george [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 13, 2018 9:04 AM
To: bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery  Bart,
Tell me about your water that would help the children with autism.
George

On Tuesday, 13 November 2018, 9:29:47 am AEDT, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Mick Kone

                     Kone as usual your advice and words do not go unheard. Thank you.

Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the yesterday day becomes the old way .

As well,  the rules change on a constant.

Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits and own the convenience store as well as the shopping mall, your local politician, cop , school teacher and so on.

Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as individuals so much. Canada is looked at as mini America more globally now. Trying its best to benefit from Americas mistakes and create a new path economically.

Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.


As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and befriended some ministers, wow corruption at its best.   But there  , its the way of life.

Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same exercise, just different facades. Its mankind's crap of  order, tho it is at least that I suppose.

 But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have even mentioned it.

The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went the weekend before last to visit our daughter.

We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on our doorstep from the University lol

he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came along . We managed to get them  employment where my daughter was working at.

A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do think my water would help the children but daughter said its not certified , So no we could not.

Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some studies. But the wife says its not clinically proven.

While there we went to Banff 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Banff,_Alberta

|  | Banff, Alberta - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.orgBanff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada.It is located in Alberta's Rockies along the Trans-Canada Highway, approximately 126 km (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of Lake Louise.At an elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630 m (5,350 ft), Banff is the community with the second highest elevation in Alberta after Lake Louise. |


We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our son from India says yup  we are up where the goats screw and the eagles fly!


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery  
Kone,

Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the old days of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts too, never happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the cash up to Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are traveling with big dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow operation.    It takes trucks to move all they are growing now.  I know some grower folks who were doing close to a million a year, now prices have dropped and everything taxed they are barely getting by.   Money here was supposed to go to the cops but they are complaining about shortfalls and writing bonds for new jails and other bullshit.  Just like the lotto going to schools the weed money is being stolen by the govn mafia.  A few months back there was a release of the PERS retirement data for govn workers.  Many of these people are making more than they ever did working sometimes double and high six figures.  Meanwhile they keep raising the property tax each year to pay these retirements of which they are claiming we are 22 billion in the red.  


Check out this shit:

https://gov.oregonlive.com/ pers/

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