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This last one is your example of a solenoid driven device!
On 11/18/2018 6:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> http://www.ijsrp.org/research-paper-0114/ijsrp-p2581.pdf
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> On 11/18/2018 6:20 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEogsEfFXrg
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>> On 11/18/2018 6:10 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> https://www.greenoptimistic.com/real-working-magnetic-motor/#.W_FVw-JRc2w
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>>> On 11/18/2018 5:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>> https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-pty-pty_email&hsimp=yhs-pty_email&hspart=pty&p=magnetic+repulsion+motor+fabrication+video#id=3&vid=5997a2a9237c6ddc7bd57c175acbb4cc&action=click
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>>>> On 11/17/2018 8:17 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>
>>>>> Evgray was a while back, I meant some people here, in this forum,
>>>>> as we speak, building a successful solenoid piston engine, using
>>>>> Ismael's concept, or was it too tricky
>>>>> Cheers Warren
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 9:08 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> EV Gray built a recip engine version of his repulsion plate
>>>>> principle!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 7:52 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone tried to duplicate Ismael's coil leap?
>>>>>> That concept of coil as piston, on a reciprocating engine?
>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 11:04 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warren! Lots of thought has to go into how we approach
>>>>>> designing a ZERO LENZ motor whether it be a linear
>>>>>> solenoid or a rotary type motor. The solenoid type linear
>>>>>> thrust driver is easiest to trick into the locked rotor
>>>>>> DC input that has no back EMF or counter emf. see: files
>>>>>> I posted on DC motor characteristics. If you are going to
>>>>>> drive Ray's pendelium LENZ free neo generator then we
>>>>>> have to calculate the moment of inertia needed to drive
>>>>>> the thrust rod accounting for all inertia and loading
>>>>>> factors. This will give us the duration and magnitude of
>>>>>> driving DC pulse. (power supply source direct) or
>>>>>> (Capacitor source) Timing of pulse such as the famous
>>>>>> Child on the Swing as per Tesla. Wire turns and all the
>>>>>> electrical parameters can be worked out very easily since
>>>>>> we can select a time base for the as natural as possible
>>>>>> operation of the device. How much inductive drag is there
>>>>>> with the non metal core coil in the neo magnetic gap??
>>>>>> Just because he claims no LENZ effect does not mean that
>>>>>> you generate a current or wattage load free. A lot to be
>>>>>> learned before jumping into construction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:12 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK Norm, work out the math, as when I try, I just get TV
>>>>>>> snow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once we know the size wire, and number of turns, we can
>>>>>>> build a working model.
>>>>>>> I can build, but I get confused when left vague
>>>>>>> instructions, so try to help us out here.
>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 2:46 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warren, Iron, Further thought on this as follows!
>>>>>>> The solenoid linear motor can be operated just the
>>>>>>> same as the old Outboard Marine Magnetos that I
>>>>>>> studied to such detail. What made them so efficient
>>>>>>> was the three pole coil stator which received a
>>>>>>> forward going current in primary windings , magnets
>>>>>>> passing 1st and 2nd pole pieces before top dead
>>>>>>> center which charged up the condenser when current
>>>>>>> reached peak. When breaker points opened the
>>>>>>> rotating magnets were passing the 2nd and 3rd pole
>>>>>>> pieces inducing a reverse polarity current in the
>>>>>>> primary windings and the discharge current from the
>>>>>>> condenser was in phase which accelerated the
>>>>>>> magnetic flux reversal. On a scope the primary
>>>>>>> current represented an instantaneous straight down
>>>>>>> line (nano second response). This was accomplished
>>>>>>> due to the fact that the .026mfd condenser was a
>>>>>>> perfect L_C match with the coil impedance. (Ultra
>>>>>>> high Q) . It is important to incorporate this
>>>>>>> magneto electric effect into the switching design of
>>>>>>> the solenoid linear motor. See, there is a L-C high
>>>>>>> Q relationship here. I just threw out the 60 HZ
>>>>>>> time base but for design simplicity, any switching
>>>>>>> frequency can be selected. Just as the Tesla
>>>>>>> mechanical oscillators worked at a relative low
>>>>>>> frequency! Just as pointed out, we are making a
>>>>>>> Tesla Oscillator which is driven by DC . Thoughts???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:58 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The mechanical contraptions that I have out lined,
>>>>>>>> should be very suitable for applying mechanical
>>>>>>>> switches, timed to the stroke.
>>>>>>>> I like the fact nothing can be hidden to view,
>>>>>>>> happening in a mysterious
>>>>>>>> "Black box"as even discrete components in a circuit
>>>>>>>> can be confusing.
>>>>>>>> It would be so great to hear your further thoughts
>>>>>>>> on this subject.
>>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 9:13 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a
>>>>>>>> lot about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a
>>>>>>>> lot of reading to come up with a fool proof
>>>>>>>> Lenz free motor / generator combination which
>>>>>>>> is so easy to build and proof test! First of
>>>>>>>> all you should read what we know as facts! See
>>>>>>>> the following articles:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos
>>>>>>>> as found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the
>>>>>>>> video of the Ray's LENZ free generator. What I
>>>>>>>> will propose is very simple application of DC
>>>>>>>> motor principles as read from the cited
>>>>>>>> references. First you make your LENZ free
>>>>>>>> motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>>>>>>> (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke
>>>>>>>> length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil
>>>>>>>> oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free
>>>>>>>> area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the
>>>>>>>> solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT
>>>>>>>> drive switch to give an excursion rate (stroke)
>>>>>>>> at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse
>>>>>>>> to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into
>>>>>>>> being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ
>>>>>>>> effect. Has the light come on yet?? We know
>>>>>>>> that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>>>>>>> output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC
>>>>>>>> motor principles as applied to the solenoid
>>>>>>>> driver, you have a motor that is LENZ free
>>>>>>>> also. The combo should give an Over-unity
>>>>>>>> output. Now the tricky part! We know as Ole
>>>>>>>> will agree in that when you switch the solenoid
>>>>>>>> power to off state as magnetic flux is building
>>>>>>>> toward saturation there will be a huge voltage
>>>>>>>> spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture
>>>>>>>> and not send to ground as ordinary practice in
>>>>>>>> solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The
>>>>>>>> capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>> naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>> Interesting concept! Think about it! Norm
>>>>>>>> Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC
>>>>>>>>> tank than otherwise, but it could also have to
>>>>>>>>> do with noise in the core material as I was no
>>>>>>>>> using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>>>>>>> reconnected energized back to the standing
>>>>>>>>>> wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is
>>>>>>>>>> harvested in this manner are you claiming the
>>>>>>>>>> same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>> eliminating the reactive power that doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> do any work but just heats the wires between
>>>>>>>>>> the power plant and the reactive load. This
>>>>>>>>>> is expensive for the owners of the power
>>>>>>>>>> transmission lines and thus should be
>>>>>>>>>> avoided. First storing the energy in a
>>>>>>>>>> capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then
>>>>>>>>>> dumping it to an active load will still make
>>>>>>>>>> the power go in just one direction even
>>>>>>>>>> though it happens in pulses. The energy is
>>>>>>>>>> then moving from the source to the load.
>>>>>>>>>> Reactive power has the energy moving to and
>>>>>>>>>> from the load and power source. The power
>>>>>>>>>> moving between the capacitor and inductor in
>>>>>>>>>> an LC-tank is pure reactive except for the
>>>>>>>>>> loss because of the parasitic resistance in
>>>>>>>>>> the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the
>>>>>>>>>> patent terminology and not concerning
>>>>>>>>>> ourselves with the patent just a very high Q
>>>>>>>>>> tank.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>>>>>>> reconnected energized back to the standing
>>>>>>>>>> wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is
>>>>>>>>>> harvested in this manner are you claiming the
>>>>>>>>>> same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have only read to the following
>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph cited below. I wonder if the
>>>>>>>>>>> applicant knows about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent
>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the
>>>>>>>>>>> inductor connected in series to the
>>>>>>>>>>> capacitor and there is voltage across
>>>>>>>>>>> the inductor connected in parallel to
>>>>>>>>>>> the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>> Power=voltage×current, a single power
>>>>>>>>>>> input produces two branches of
>>>>>>>>>>> electromagnetic power output, increasing
>>>>>>>>>>> the power output. In the alternative,
>>>>>>>>>>> the present disclosure may have one
>>>>>>>>>>> electromagnetic power output with less
>>>>>>>>>>> energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>> oscilloscope for measuring the current
>>>>>>>>>>> and voltage it will show some phase
>>>>>>>>>>> displacement between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>> voltage which means reactive power. Look
>>>>>>>>>>> at the following small videos to see how
>>>>>>>>>>> one can be misled if not knowing how the
>>>>>>>>>>> phase between the current and voltage
>>>>>>>>>>> is: Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>>>>>>> (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>>> 0:42
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ?
>>>>>>>>>>> explanation part 3.
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:01
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ?
>>>>>>>>>>> explanation part 2.
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>>> 1:00
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? part 1.
>>>>>>>>>>> but,
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 8K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The numbers without the phase shift
>>>>>>>>>>> looks like overunity which isn't the
>>>>>>>>>>> case when taking into account the phase
>>>>>>>>>>> shift. Only real power is useful in
>>>>>>>>>>> doing work. Reactive power doesn't do
>>>>>>>>>>> work except for the small active part
>>>>>>>>>>> heating the the wires and other
>>>>>>>>>>> components because of their parasitic
>>>>>>>>>>> resistance. This part caused by current
>>>>>>>>>>> doing work against the resistance is
>>>>>>>>>>> active power and not actually reactive
>>>>>>>>>>> power. This is why the power
>>>>>>>>>>> distributing companies may charge
>>>>>>>>>>> costumers for having high reactive power
>>>>>>>>>>> going through their cables which heats
>>>>>>>>>>> the power lines without transferring
>>>>>>>>>>> active power to their costumers. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> just pure loss because the wires have
>>>>>>>>>>> resistance. Resistance converts electric
>>>>>>>>>>> power into heat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just looked at the figures and found the
>>>>>>>>>>> description to figure 46:
>>>>>>>>>>> "[0149]FIG. 46 illustrates an embodiment
>>>>>>>>>>> of the present disclosure that conserves
>>>>>>>>>>> light bulb energy. In a test conducted,
>>>>>>>>>>> on Nov. 16, 1998, a light bulb was
>>>>>>>>>>> installed according to the schematic
>>>>>>>>>>> disclosed in FIG. 46 and is still
>>>>>>>>>>> running seven years later.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [0150]Since Apparent Power (VA)=Current
>>>>>>>>>>> (A)×Voltage (V), the calculations below
>>>>>>>>>>> illustrate energy conservation for a 60
>>>>>>>>>>> W light bulb. The voltage applied at the
>>>>>>>>>>> power input is 115 V. The apparent power
>>>>>>>>>>> for the Power Input Line (Line PIN) is
>>>>>>>>>>> measured at 126.5 VA. The apparent power
>>>>>>>>>>> measured for the shed motor fan is 126.5
>>>>>>>>>>> VA and the apparent power measured for
>>>>>>>>>>> the light bulb is 65 VA. Therefore, 126
>>>>>>>>>>> VA is measured at the input and a total
>>>>>>>>>>> of 191.5 VA is measured at the output,
>>>>>>>>>>> indicating an approximately 1.5 gain.
>>>>>>>>>>> Calculations are also shown for the
>>>>>>>>>>> energy savings for a 75W Bulb."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is the apparent power that is
>>>>>>>>>>> increased. The apparent power is the
>>>>>>>>>>> vector sum of the real power and the
>>>>>>>>>>> reactive power which makes it always
>>>>>>>>>>> greater than or equal to the real (or
>>>>>>>>>>> active or true) power.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Source with description at:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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