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On 11/18/2018 6:20 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEogsEfFXrg
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> On 11/18/2018 6:10 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> https://www.greenoptimistic.com/real-working-magnetic-motor/#.W_FVw-JRc2w
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>> On 11/18/2018 5:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-pty-pty_email&hsimp=yhs-pty_email&hspart=pty&p=magnetic+repulsion+motor+fabrication+video#id=3&vid=5997a2a9237c6ddc7bd57c175acbb4cc&action=click
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>>> On 11/17/2018 8:17 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>> Evgray was a while back, I meant some people here, in this forum,
>>>> as we speak, building a successful solenoid piston engine, using
>>>> Ismael's concept, or was it too tricky
>>>> Cheers Warren
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>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 9:08 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> EV Gray built a recip engine version of his repulsion plate
>>>> principle!
>>>>
>>>> On 11/17/2018 7:52 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone tried to duplicate Ismael's coil leap?
>>>>> That concept of coil as piston, on a reciprocating engine?
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 11:04 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren! Lots of thought has to go into how we approach
>>>>> designing a ZERO LENZ motor whether it be a linear
>>>>> solenoid or a rotary type motor. The solenoid type linear
>>>>> thrust driver is easiest to trick into the locked rotor DC
>>>>> input that has no back EMF or counter emf. see: files I
>>>>> posted on DC motor characteristics. If you are going to
>>>>> drive Ray's pendelium LENZ free neo generator then we have
>>>>> to calculate the moment of inertia needed to drive the
>>>>> thrust rod accounting for all inertia and loading factors.
>>>>> This will give us the duration and magnitude of driving DC
>>>>> pulse. (power supply source direct) or (Capacitor source)
>>>>> Timing of pulse such as the famous Child on the Swing as
>>>>> per Tesla. Wire turns and all the electrical parameters
>>>>> can be worked out very easily since we can select a time
>>>>> base for the as natural as possible operation of the
>>>>> device. How much inductive drag is there with the non
>>>>> metal core coil in the neo magnetic gap?? Just because he
>>>>> claims no LENZ effect does not mean that you generate a
>>>>> current or wattage load free. A lot to be learned before
>>>>> jumping into construction.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:12 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK Norm, work out the math, as when I try, I just get TV
>>>>>> snow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once we know the size wire, and number of turns, we can
>>>>>> build a working model.
>>>>>> I can build, but I get confused when left vague
>>>>>> instructions, so try to help us out here.
>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 2:46 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warren, Iron, Further thought on this as follows!
>>>>>> The solenoid linear motor can be operated just the
>>>>>> same as the old Outboard Marine Magnetos that I
>>>>>> studied to such detail. What made them so efficient
>>>>>> was the three pole coil stator which received a
>>>>>> forward going current in primary windings , magnets
>>>>>> passing 1st and 2nd pole pieces before top dead
>>>>>> center which charged up the condenser when current
>>>>>> reached peak. When breaker points opened the rotating
>>>>>> magnets were passing the 2nd and 3rd pole pieces
>>>>>> inducing a reverse polarity current in the primary
>>>>>> windings and the discharge current from the condenser
>>>>>> was in phase which accelerated the magnetic flux
>>>>>> reversal. On a scope the primary current represented
>>>>>> an instantaneous straight down line (nano second
>>>>>> response). This was accomplished due to the fact that
>>>>>> the .026mfd condenser was a perfect L_C match with
>>>>>> the coil impedance. (Ultra high Q) . It is important
>>>>>> to incorporate this magneto electric effect into the
>>>>>> switching design of the solenoid linear motor. See,
>>>>>> there is a L-C high Q relationship here. I just
>>>>>> threw out the 60 HZ time base but for design
>>>>>> simplicity, any switching frequency can be selected.
>>>>>> Just as the Tesla mechanical oscillators worked at a
>>>>>> relative low frequency! Just as pointed out, we are
>>>>>> making a Tesla Oscillator which is driven by DC .
>>>>>> Thoughts???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:58 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mechanical contraptions that I have out lined,
>>>>>>> should be very suitable for applying mechanical
>>>>>>> switches, timed to the stroke.
>>>>>>> I like the fact nothing can be hidden to view,
>>>>>>> happening in a mysterious
>>>>>>> "Black box"as even discrete components in a circuit
>>>>>>> can be confusing.
>>>>>>> It would be so great to hear your further thoughts
>>>>>>> on this subject.
>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 9:13 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a
>>>>>>> lot about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a
>>>>>>> lot of reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz
>>>>>>> free motor / generator combination which is so
>>>>>>> easy to build and proof test! First of all you
>>>>>>> should read what we know as facts! See the
>>>>>>> following articles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos
>>>>>>> as found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video
>>>>>>> of the Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will
>>>>>>> propose is very simple application of DC motor
>>>>>>> principles as read from the cited references.
>>>>>>> First you make your LENZ free motor which is in
>>>>>>> reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will
>>>>>>> give the necessary stroke length to drive the
>>>>>>> LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the
>>>>>>> drag free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets).
>>>>>>> Stroke of the solenoid is controlled by Hall
>>>>>>> sensor and IGBT drive switch to give an
>>>>>>> excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ.
>>>>>>> By using a DC pulse to drive the solenoid coil
>>>>>>> it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR
>>>>>>> condition, thus no LENZ effect. Has the light
>>>>>>> come on yet?? We know that Ray's generator
>>>>>>> puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no LENZ
>>>>>>> drag. Following the DC motor principles as
>>>>>>> applied to the solenoid driver, you have a motor
>>>>>>> that is LENZ free also. The combo should give an
>>>>>>> Over-unity output. Now the tricky part! We know
>>>>>>> as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
>>>>>>> solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is
>>>>>>> building toward saturation there will be a huge
>>>>>>> voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>> capture and not send to ground as ordinary
>>>>>>> practice in solid state switch design (snubber
>>>>>>> diodes) The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV)
>>>>>>> which occurs naturally will be the over-unity
>>>>>>> factor here! Interesting concept! Think about
>>>>>>> it! Norm Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC
>>>>>>>> tank than otherwise, but it could also have to
>>>>>>>> do with noise in the core material as I was no
>>>>>>>> using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>>>>>> reconnected energized back to the standing
>>>>>>>>> wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is
>>>>>>>>> harvested in this manner are you claiming the
>>>>>>>>> same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>> eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do
>>>>>>>>> any work but just heats the wires between the
>>>>>>>>> power plant and the reactive load. This is
>>>>>>>>> expensive for the owners of the power
>>>>>>>>> transmission lines and thus should be avoided.
>>>>>>>>> First storing the energy in a capacitor (or
>>>>>>>>> inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an
>>>>>>>>> active load will still make the power go in
>>>>>>>>> just one direction even though it happens in
>>>>>>>>> pulses. The energy is then moving from the
>>>>>>>>> source to the load. Reactive power has the
>>>>>>>>> energy moving to and from the load and power
>>>>>>>>> source. The power moving between the capacitor
>>>>>>>>> and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive
>>>>>>>>> except for the loss because of the parasitic
>>>>>>>>> resistance in the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>> terminology and not concerning ourselves with
>>>>>>>>> the patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>>>>>> reconnected energized back to the standing
>>>>>>>>> wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is
>>>>>>>>> harvested in this manner are you claiming the
>>>>>>>>> same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have only read to the following
>>>>>>>>>> paragraph cited below. I wonder if the
>>>>>>>>>> applicant knows about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent
>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the
>>>>>>>>>> inductor connected in series to the
>>>>>>>>>> capacitor and there is voltage across the
>>>>>>>>>> inductor connected in parallel to the
>>>>>>>>>> capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a
>>>>>>>>>> single power input produces two branches
>>>>>>>>>> of electromagnetic power output,
>>>>>>>>>> increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>> alternative, the present disclosure may
>>>>>>>>>> have one electromagnetic power output
>>>>>>>>>> with less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>> oscilloscope for measuring the current
>>>>>>>>>> and voltage it will show some phase
>>>>>>>>>> displacement between the current and
>>>>>>>>>> voltage which means reactive power. Look
>>>>>>>>>> at the following small videos to see how
>>>>>>>>>> one can be misled if not knowing how the
>>>>>>>>>> phase between the current and voltage is:
>>>>>>>>>> Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>>>>>> (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>> 0:42
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ?
>>>>>>>>>> explanation part 3.
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>> 1:01
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ?
>>>>>>>>>> explanation part 2.
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>>>>> 1:00
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? part 1.
>>>>>>>>>> but,
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 8K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The numbers without the phase shift looks
>>>>>>>>>> like overunity which isn't the case when
>>>>>>>>>> taking into account the phase shift. Only
>>>>>>>>>> real power is useful in doing work.
>>>>>>>>>> Reactive power doesn't do work except for
>>>>>>>>>> the small active part heating the the
>>>>>>>>>> wires and other components because of
>>>>>>>>>> their parasitic resistance. This part
>>>>>>>>>> caused by current doing work against the
>>>>>>>>>> resistance is active power and not
>>>>>>>>>> actually reactive power. This is why the
>>>>>>>>>> power distributing companies may charge
>>>>>>>>>> costumers for having high reactive power
>>>>>>>>>> going through their cables which heats
>>>>>>>>>> the power lines without transferring
>>>>>>>>>> active power to their costumers. It's
>>>>>>>>>> just pure loss because the wires have
>>>>>>>>>> resistance. Resistance converts electric
>>>>>>>>>> power into heat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just looked at the figures and found the
>>>>>>>>>> description to figure 46:
>>>>>>>>>> "[0149]FIG. 46 illustrates an embodiment
>>>>>>>>>> of the present disclosure that conserves
>>>>>>>>>> light bulb energy. In a test conducted,
>>>>>>>>>> on Nov. 16, 1998, a light bulb was
>>>>>>>>>> installed according to the schematic
>>>>>>>>>> disclosed in FIG. 46 and is still running
>>>>>>>>>> seven years later.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [0150]Since Apparent Power (VA)=Current
>>>>>>>>>> (A)×Voltage (V), the calculations below
>>>>>>>>>> illustrate energy conservation for a 60 W
>>>>>>>>>> light bulb. The voltage applied at the
>>>>>>>>>> power input is 115 V. The apparent power
>>>>>>>>>> for the Power Input Line (Line PIN) is
>>>>>>>>>> measured at 126.5 VA. The apparent power
>>>>>>>>>> measured for the shed motor fan is 126.5
>>>>>>>>>> VA and the apparent power measured for
>>>>>>>>>> the light bulb is 65 VA. Therefore, 126
>>>>>>>>>> VA is measured at the input and a total
>>>>>>>>>> of 191.5 VA is measured at the output,
>>>>>>>>>> indicating an approximately 1.5 gain.
>>>>>>>>>> Calculations are also shown for the
>>>>>>>>>> energy savings for a 75W Bulb."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is the apparent power that is
>>>>>>>>>> increased. The apparent power is the
>>>>>>>>>> vector sum of the real power and the
>>>>>>>>>> reactive power which makes it always
>>>>>>>>>> greater than or equal to the real (or
>>>>>>>>>> active or true) power.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Source with description at:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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