Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Neutral spike

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Ole,

Thanks I thought that was blocked rotor, OK that makes sense there would
be maximal slip if the rotor is held fast.  It's been a mirror brain day.

On 11/17/2018 3:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. This is
> also known as stalled rotor.
>
> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating magnetic
> wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor (asynchronous motor) this
> means no power transmission between the rotor and the stator. The
> motor is then working neither as motor or generator.
>
> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating field speed.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Norm,
>
> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked rotor
> was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the rotor is locked to
> the rotational field from stator with least amount of slip, seems like
> I am reading now it is most amount of slip.
>
> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any additional
> information of what you think may be occurring beyond the everyday
> accepted definition?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>      
>>
>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about my Locked
>>     Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to come up with a fool
>>     proof Lenz free motor / generator combination which is so easy to
>>     build and proof test! First of all you should read what we know
>>     as facts! See the following articles:
>>
>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>
>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>
>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>
>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at K&G
>>     Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free
>>     generator.  What I will propose is very simple application of DC
>>     motor principles as read from the cited references. First you
>>     make your LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>     (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke length to drive
>>     the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ
>>     free area of the Neo magnets).   Stroke of the solenoid is
>>     controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give an
>>     excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC
>>     pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into being in
>>     LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come
>>     on yet??   We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>     output (AC) with no LENZ drag.  Following the DC motor principles
>>     as applied to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ
>>     free also.  The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the
>>     tricky part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch
>>     the solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is building
>>     toward saturation there will be a huge voltage spike (Neutral
>>     Spike) which we have to capture and not send to ground as
>>     ordinary practice in solid state switch design (snubber diodes) 
>>     The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will
>>     be the over-unity factor here!  Interesting concept!  Think about
>>     it!  Norm    Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>
>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Ole,
>>>
>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than otherwise,
>>>     but it could also have to do with noise in the core material as
>>>     I was no using an air inductor.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>
>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the
>>>>     reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>     reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>     recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy
>>>>     is harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses
>>>>     will occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into
>>>>     real power?"
>>>>
>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>
>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for eliminating the
>>>>     reactive power that doesn't do any work but just heats the
>>>>     wires between the power plant and the reactive load. This is
>>>>     expensive for the owners of the power transmission lines and
>>>>     thus should be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor
>>>>     (or inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an active load
>>>>     will still make the power go in just one direction even though
>>>>     it happens in pulses. The energy is then moving from the source
>>>>     to the load. Reactive power has the energy moving to and from
>>>>     the load and power source. The power moving between the
>>>>     capacitor and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except
>>>>     for the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>     components and wires.
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     Ole,
>>>>
>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent terminology and
>>>>     not concerning ourselves with the patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>
>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the
>>>>     reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then
>>>>     reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>     recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy
>>>>     is harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses
>>>>     will occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into
>>>>     real power?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph cited below. I
>>>>>         wonder if the applicant knows about what he is writing.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>>>         series to the capacitor and there is voltage across the
>>>>>         inductor connected in parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>         Power=voltage×current, a single power input produces two
>>>>>         branches of electromagnetic power output, increasing the
>>>>>         power output. In the alternative, the present disclosure
>>>>>         may have one electromagnetic power output with less energy
>>>>>         input."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an oscilloscope for
>>>>>         measuring the current and voltage it will show some phase
>>>>>         displacement between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>         reactive power. Look at the following small videos to see
>>>>>         how one can be misled if not knowing how the phase between
>>>>>         the current and voltage is: Only the the resistive part
>>>>>         consumes (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>
>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 3.
>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>
>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 2.
>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>
>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>
>

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