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On 11/17/2018 7:52 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norman
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> Has anyone tried to duplicate Ismael's coil leap?
> That concept of coil as piston, on a reciprocating engine?
> Cheers Warren
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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 11:04 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Warren! Lots of thought has to go into how we approach designing
> a ZERO LENZ motor whether it be a linear solenoid or a rotary type
> motor. The solenoid type linear thrust driver is easiest to trick
> into the locked rotor DC input that has no back EMF or counter
> emf. see: files I posted on DC motor characteristics. If you are
> going to drive Ray's pendelium LENZ free neo generator then we
> have to calculate the moment of inertia needed to drive the thrust
> rod accounting for all inertia and loading factors. This will give
> us the duration and magnitude of driving DC pulse. (power supply
> source direct) or (Capacitor source) Timing of pulse such as the
> famous Child on the Swing as per Tesla. Wire turns and all the
> electrical parameters can be worked out very easily since we can
> select a time base for the as natural as possible operation of the
> device. How much inductive drag is there with the non metal core
> coil in the neo magnetic gap?? Just because he claims no LENZ
> effect does not mean that you generate a current or wattage load
> free. A lot to be learned before jumping into construction.
>
> On 11/16/2018 9:12 PM, Warren Keillor
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> OK Norm, work out the math, as when I try, I just get TV snow.
>>
>> Once we know the size wire, and number of turns, we can build a
>> working model.
>> I can build, but I get confused when left vague instructions, so
>> try to help us out here.
>> Cheers Warren
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>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 2:46 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Warren, Iron, Further thought on this as follows! The
>> solenoid linear motor can be operated just the same as the
>> old Outboard Marine Magnetos that I studied to such detail.
>> What made them so efficient was the three pole coil stator
>> which received a forward going current in primary windings ,
>> magnets passing 1st and 2nd pole pieces before top dead
>> center which charged up the condenser when current reached
>> peak. When breaker points opened the rotating magnets were
>> passing the 2nd and 3rd pole pieces inducing a reverse
>> polarity current in the primary windings and the discharge
>> current from the condenser was in phase which accelerated the
>> magnetic flux reversal. On a scope the primary current
>> represented an instantaneous straight down line (nano second
>> response). This was accomplished due to the fact that the
>> .026mfd condenser was a perfect L_C match with the coil
>> impedance. (Ultra high Q) . It is important to incorporate
>> this magneto electric effect into the switching design of the
>> solenoid linear motor. See, there is a L-C high Q
>> relationship here. I just threw out the 60 HZ time base but
>> for design simplicity, any switching frequency can be
>> selected. Just as the Tesla mechanical oscillators worked at
>> a relative low frequency! Just as pointed out, we are making
>> a Tesla Oscillator which is driven by DC . Thoughts???
>>
>> On 11/16/2018 9:58 AM, Warren Keillor
>> [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm
>>>
>>> The mechanical contraptions that I have out lined, should be
>>> very suitable for applying mechanical switches, timed to the
>>> stroke.
>>> I like the fact nothing can be hidden to view, happening in
>>> a mysterious
>>> "Black box"as even discrete components in a circuit can be
>>> confusing.
>>> It would be so great to hear your further thoughts on this
>>> subject.
>>> Cheers Warren
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>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 9:13 AM, Norman Wootan
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a lot about
>>> my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to
>>> come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator
>>> combination which is so easy to build and proof test!
>>> First of all you should read what we know as facts! See
>>> the following articles:
>>>
>>> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>
>>> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>
>>> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found
>>> at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's
>>> LENZ free generator. What I will propose is very simple
>>> application of DC motor principles as read from the
>>> cited references. First you make your LENZ free motor
>>> which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will
>>> give the necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR
>>> generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ
>>> free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>> controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give
>>> an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By
>>> using a DC pulse to drive the solenoid coil it is
>>> tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no
>>> LENZ effect. Has the light come on yet?? We know that
>>> Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no
>>> LENZ drag. Following the DC motor principles as applied
>>> to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ
>>> free also. The combo should give an Over-unity output.
>>> Now the tricky part! We know as Ole will agree in that
>>> when you switch the solenoid power to off state as
>>> magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will
>>> be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>> capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in
>>> solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The capture
>>> of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be
>>> the over-unity factor here! Interesting concept! Think
>>> about it! Norm Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>
>>> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ole,
>>>>
>>>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>> otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in
>>>> the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>>
>>>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>> from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>> resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>> standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>> in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>> occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>> into real power?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>> eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>> work but just heats the wires between the power plant
>>>>> and the reactive load. This is expensive for the
>>>>> owners of the power transmission lines and thus should
>>>>> be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor
>>>>> (or inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an
>>>>> active load will still make the power go in just one
>>>>> direction even though it happens in pulses. The energy
>>>>> is then moving from the source to the load. Reactive
>>>>> power has the energy moving to and from the load and
>>>>> power source. The power moving between the capacitor
>>>>> and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for
>>>>> the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>> components and wires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>
>>>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>> terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>> patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>> from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>> resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>> standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>> discharged etc. If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>> in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>> occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>> into real power?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have only read to the following paragraph cited
>>>>>> below. I wonder if the applicant knows about what
>>>>>> he is writing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>> connected in series to the capacitor and there is
>>>>>> voltage across the inductor connected in parallel
>>>>>> to the capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a
>>>>>> single power input produces two branches of
>>>>>> electromagnetic power output, increasing the
>>>>>> power output. In the alternative, the present
>>>>>> disclosure may have one electromagnetic power
>>>>>> output with less energy input."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>> oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>> voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>> between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>> reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>> videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>> knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>> voltage is: Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>> (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alt
>>>>>> 0:42
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>> alt
>>>>>> 1:01
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10K views5 years ago
>>>>>> alt
>>>>>> 1:00
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? part 1. but,
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8K views5 years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The numbers without the phase shift looks like
>>>>>> overunity which isn't the case when taking into
>>>>>> account the phase shift. Only real power is
>>>>>> useful in doing work. Reactive power doesn't do
>>>>>> work except for the small active part heating the
>>>>>> the wires and other components because of their
>>>>>> parasitic resistance. This part caused by current
>>>>>> doing work against the resistance is active power
>>>>>> and not actually reactive power. This is why the
>>>>>> power distributing companies may charge costumers
>>>>>> for having high reactive power going through
>>>>>> their cables which heats the power lines without
>>>>>> transferring active power to their costumers.
>>>>>> It's just pure loss because the wires have
>>>>>> resistance. Resistance converts electric power
>>>>>> into heat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just looked at the figures and found the
>>>>>> description to figure 46:
>>>>>> "[0149]FIG. 46 illustrates an embodiment of the
>>>>>> present disclosure that conserves light bulb
>>>>>> energy. In a test conducted, on Nov. 16, 1998, a
>>>>>> light bulb was installed according to the
>>>>>> schematic disclosed in FIG. 46 and is still
>>>>>> running seven years later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0150]Since Apparent Power (VA)=Current
>>>>>> (A)×Voltage (V), the calculations below
>>>>>> illustrate energy conservation for a 60 W light
>>>>>> bulb. The voltage applied at the power input is
>>>>>> 115 V. The apparent power for the Power Input
>>>>>> Line (Line PIN) is measured at 126.5 VA. The
>>>>>> apparent power measured for the shed motor fan is
>>>>>> 126.5 VA and the apparent power measured for the
>>>>>> light bulb is 65 VA. Therefore, 126 VA is
>>>>>> measured at the input and a total of 191.5 VA is
>>>>>> measured at the output, indicating an
>>>>>> approximately 1.5 gain. Calculations are also
>>>>>> shown for the energy savings for a 75W Bulb."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is the apparent power that is increased. The
>>>>>> apparent power is the vector sum of the real
>>>>>> power and the reactive power which makes it
>>>>>> always greater than or equal to the real (or
>>>>>> active or true) power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source with description at:
>>>>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>
>>>>
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