Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Neutral spike

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Hi Warren,

Here is an early ignition system: The trembler coil: https://wiki2.org/en/Trembler_coil https://wiki2.org/en/Trembler_coil

Here is another description with a schematic:
https://union.ic.ac.uk/rcc/rcsmotor/mechanics/dennis-n-type-manual/electrical-system/ https://union.ic.ac.uk/rcc/rcsmotor/mechanics/dennis-n-type-manual/electrical-system/

It is mentioned that there is a capacitor across the trembler (vibrator) arm to prevent it forming plasma that eats away the metal. The modern flyback generators have the contacts replaced with a transistor switch at the ground side. The capacitor is placed in parallel to the transistor to limit the voltage to below the breakdown voltage of the transistor. The secondary voltage is the windings ratio between the primary and secondary coils greater than the primary voltage.

Here is a better schematic:
 http://www.longrope.com/circuits/Trembler%20coil.htm
 Source: http://www.longrope.com/circuits/Trembler%20coil.htm http://www.longrope.com/circuits/Trembler%20coil.htm

I'm looking for a free energy generator that is not depending on resonance. It must keep on running even if the load changes. Or else at least something has to track the resonant frequency when the load changes. I like Pierre's device as he doesn't have to readjust it when the load is changed.

To see the waveform on a scope a x100 probe (around 1.5kV) is needed. Only measure the primary voltage. The secondary voltage is a copy of the primary voltage only the winding ratio greater for a step-up transformer. Remember to have the voltage limiting capacitor (snubber) in parallel to the switch. More capacitance means less flyback voltage. So start with more parallel capacitance if in doubt of the primary voltage exceeding the scope range.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Mick What do we get from the old Ford Model T coil? It is 6 volts into, like a door bell buzzer switch, then primary, and secondary, producing a very hot spark, which I have never been able to see the nature of on a scope that I value. It is about 10,000 volts, judging by the length, and hot enough to ignite a sheet of paper put between the gap.
 Although I haven't performed surgery on one yet, I believe there may be an oil paper wrapped capacitor in there too.
 Now, in the vein of keeping the device simple, what happens when we rectify this high voltage "unknown" spark source? 
 This reliable high voltage DC source of pulses should be able to be applied to an inductor which in turn, should certainly disturb the local magnetic field, one might imagine.
We then get dangerously close to the Don Smith rabbit hole, where none of us has gone down yet.
 Ole might be peeking in the back door of that realm, with his new inverter?
 It seems that the rythmatic tapping on the magnetic field can resonate with a coil of wire of a certain length, in an amplified manner, again rectified, to produce usable electricity.
 All of this must be put inside a Faraday cage, lest we bring down the demons, sent out to find why cell phone coverage is suddenly not happening in an area.
 The T coil can be adjusted mechanically with adjusting the buzzer point gap, changing the frequency slightly.
 Cheers Warren
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 On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 12:27 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Kone,
 It's much easier that way you are correct just investigating both concepts of AC and DC circuit harvesting.  When harvesting RF if one desires to pull DC the old fashioned way Tesla did it the timing is important as one goes up a even harmonic or two to pull of the compression or refraction only.
 AC version and  the more difficult system I think has it's uses in the more esoteric weird shit Hector talks about because if one stays in the AC realm one can induce feedback to dance with the devil and friends.

 On 11/16/2018 8:36 PM, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Ole and Mick
 Just my measly two cent opinion but the capcitor "could" hold a charge rather than dancing back and forth with inductor if the capacitor has its charge rectified first which I believe is whole idea of diode plug and cap is timed to discharge into load too so there is power being created not just observation of resonance...
 Kone

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