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Thanks! Warren for giving this some serious thought.
On 11/16/2018 9:50 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm
>
> I have collected several reciprocal set ups that can utilize solenoid
> drives, ever since I saw those amazing coil leaps, from our friend in
> Indonesia.
> One is a water pump, with ball bearings and sump meant for a cottage
> supply well. The cylinder block is separate, and can easily be
> replaced by a good sized solenoid,
> that can easily be home custom made. Another is an interesting cast
> iron treadle, meant in Victorian times to power " power" tools.
> It has the construction and simplicity of a piece of lab equipment,
> suitable for straight forward video communication, as an educational tool.
> Again, the replacement of the foot pedal with a solenoid piston, is
> very simple, and graphically instructive, for conceptual communication.
> Machinery is easy for me
> Coils are easy too.
> The tough issue is keeping the signals simple, and straight forward.
> I figure if I can get it to work, we all should be able to do this.
> I now must get to a computer, to open your links, and perhaps print them.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 9:13 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a lot about my Locked
> Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to come up with a fool
> proof Lenz free motor / generator combination which is so easy to
> build and proof test! First of all you should read what we know as
> facts! See the following articles:
>
> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>
> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>
> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>
> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at K&G
> Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free
> generator. What I will propose is very simple application of DC
> motor principles as read from the cited references. First you make
> your LENZ free motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
> (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke length to drive
> the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ
> free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
> controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give an
> excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC
> pulse to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into being in
> LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ effect. Has the light come
> on yet?? We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
> output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC motor principles
> as applied to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ
> free also. The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the
> tricky part! We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
> solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is building toward
> saturation there will be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike)
> which we have to capture and not send to ground as ordinary
> practice in solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The
> capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be
> the over-unity factor here! Interesting concept! Think about
> it! Norm Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>
> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Ole,
>>
>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than otherwise,
>> but it could also have to do with noise in the core material as I
>> was no using an air inductor.
>>
>>
>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mick,
>>>
>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the
>>> reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then
>>> reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality
>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the reactive energy
>>> is harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses
>>> will occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into
>>> real power?"
>>>
>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>
>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for eliminating the
>>> reactive power that doesn't do any work but just heats the wires
>>> between the power plant and the reactive load. This is expensive
>>> for the owners of the power transmission lines and thus should
>>> be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor (or inductor
>>> or battery) and then dumping it to an active load will still
>>> make the power go in just one direction even though it happens
>>> in pulses. The energy is then moving from the source to the
>>> load. Reactive power has the energy moving to and from the load
>>> and power source. The power moving between the capacitor and
>>> inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for the loss
>>> because of the parasitic resistance in the components and wires.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> Ole,
>>>
>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent terminology and
>>> not concerning ourselves with the patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>
>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the
>>> reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then
>>> reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality
>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the reactive energy is
>>> harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>> occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>
>>>> I have only read to the following paragraph cited below. I
>>>> wonder if the applicant knows about what he is writing.
>>>>
>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>> series to the capacitor and there is voltage across the
>>>> inductor connected in parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>> Power=voltage×current, a single power input produces two
>>>> branches of electromagnetic power output, increasing the
>>>> power output. In the alternative, the present disclosure
>>>> may have one electromagnetic power output with less energy
>>>> input."
>>>>
>>>> alt
>>>>
>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an oscilloscope for
>>>> measuring the current and voltage it will show some phase
>>>> displacement between the current and voltage which means
>>>> reactive power. Look at the following small videos to see
>>>> how one can be misled if not knowing how the phase between
>>>> the current and voltage is: Only the the resistive part
>>>> consumes (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>
>>>> alt
>>>> 0:42
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 3.
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>
>>>> 9.5K views5 years ago
>>>> alt
>>>> 1:01
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 2.
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>
>>>> 10K views5 years ago
>>>> alt
>>>> 1:00
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? part 1. but,
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E0ck3v40Y>
>>>>
>>>> 8K views5 years ago
>>>>
>>>> The numbers without the phase shift looks like overunity
>>>> which isn't the case when taking into account the phase
>>>> shift. Only real power is useful in doing work. Reactive
>>>> power doesn't do work except for the small active part
>>>> heating the the wires and other components because of their
>>>> parasitic resistance. This part caused by current doing
>>>> work against the resistance is active power and not
>>>> actually reactive power. This is why the power distributing
>>>> companies may charge costumers for having high reactive
>>>> power going through their cables which heats the power
>>>> lines without transferring active power to their costumers.
>>>> It's just pure loss because the wires have resistance.
>>>> Resistance converts electric power into heat.
>>>>
>>>> Just looked at the figures and found the description to
>>>> figure 46:
>>>> "[0149]FIG. 46 illustrates an embodiment of the present
>>>> disclosure that conserves light bulb energy. In a test
>>>> conducted, on Nov. 16, 1998, a light bulb was installed
>>>> according to the schematic disclosed in FIG. 46 and is
>>>> still running seven years later.
>>>>
>>>> [0150]Since Apparent Power (VA)=Current (A)×Voltage (V),
>>>> the calculations below illustrate energy conservation for a
>>>> 60 W light bulb. The voltage applied at the power input is
>>>> 115 V. The apparent power for the Power Input Line (Line
>>>> PIN) is measured at 126.5 VA. The apparent power measured
>>>> for the shed motor fan is 126.5 VA and the apparent power
>>>> measured for the light bulb is 65 VA. Therefore, 126 VA is
>>>> measured at the input and a total of 191.5 VA is measured
>>>> at the output, indicating an approximately 1.5 gain.
>>>> Calculations are also shown for the energy savings for a
>>>> 75W Bulb."
>>>>
>>>> It is the apparent power that is increased. The apparent
>>>> power is the vector sum of the real power and the reactive
>>>> power which makes it always greater than or equal to the
>>>> real (or active or true) power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Source with description at:
>>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ole
>>>
>>
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