Re: [EVGRAY] LOOPER w/pancake washmachine motor 2BLDCs as gens

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james glinski <[email protected]>

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Kono when you make contact with him on his looper think you could ask him
to join us here ?

On Sunday, October 21, 2018, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Hector
> Thank you!
> As hard as it is for me to follow what you are sending, I think I get it,
> a little, at least enough to give it a try.
> If I understand it, it is not so very different from the Rotorverter, that
> I have done already, except it is using a three phase transformer, with
> transformers on the cap series, but unusually, on the unused phase, so far.
> The rectifiers, of course, and inverters. How subtle, your capacitor. This
> is the fine graduated decade tuning box?
> The beauty of the transformer, perhaps, can be the elimination of the
> start capacitor, making switch on, less of an ordeal, eliminating a step,
> plus, there must be some advantage not rotating machinery, with inertia,
> and friction.
> Do I have a clue, or am I still lost in a Gray fog.
> Cheers Warren
>
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> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 9:13 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> servo.....
>
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> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Hector,
>
> What are the parts on the second LC, not familiar with that schematic
> part.  Are they a pair of core inductors installed counter wind?
>
> What is the motor on the smithy lathe AC or DC servo?
>
> On 10/19/2018 4:59 PM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> [image: alt][image: alt]
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> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...>
> <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
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> Hi Hector
> I know one way to get power using the capacitor winding of my RV to drive
> a 10:1  step down transformer in series.
> Are you driving a generator using the RV as a motor?
> As you know, I have two Chinese WEG 450 volt three phase 3 hp motors, with
> decade boxes, to run as Rotoverters.
> I also have DC motors/generators, that I believe are similar to the
> performance of those shown in your link.
> What is the procedure for looping, using an RV, as a driver?
> I did manage to run one RV off the series transformer from the cap circuit
> of the other. That required a bit of tricky switching to get everything up
> to running speed as I can't start my RV with any load, and needing the full
> blast of the starting capacitor, as usual, in both motors, plus tuning,
> one, right after another.
> How do you drive your RV  to drive a generator? What voltage do you
> suggest?
> I used a 12 volt to 120 volt pair of inverters for the earlier tests.
> I did manage to get a cheap 12 to 250 volt inverter on the net, as many
> European projects with success, seemed to use 250 volts, so I wanted to
> have the means to try a replication, on hand, should something interesting
> come up.
> That all said, what do you suggest?
> Cheers Warren
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> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 8:37 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Ash was going to send one of those motors to me , but it never came my way
> , , one RV  and one as generator suffices for looping with 10 to one RV to
> it coupling ... another generator that recently was also looped is this one
>
> http://mwands.com/store/freedom-ii-pmg-permanent-magnet-generator
>
> smithy lathe servo drive motor can be used to drive it to OU kindom come !
> yes you can have an RV looped lathe !
>
> Warning ! Tantra required , "divorce is possible ! " Philadelphia
> experiment effects may arise from it , time compression , inter-dimensional
> portals & the such including spontaneous teleportation to who knows where (
> inside a solid concrete wall as a sample ) .
>
> so user beware !
>
> (H)
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>
>
> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> <konehead@...> wrote :
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> Hi Dave and Ron
>
> I'm OK got apartment with wife outside of Seattle now...she has green card
> too...we are 5 minutes from my old workshop and lab....have not had
> internet for awhile just got it going..
>
> I will keep everyone posted on the Gary P duplication of Tim's
> looper which Tim sold to guy on yacht in S America....All I know is the
> looper was wash machine pancake motor of older type, that had only 18
> coils.....I think any of these sorts of motors will work as prime mover.
>
> Use hall effects to time it and build or buy some sort of variable speed
> controller.
>
> Connect this to a flywheel, spin it fairly slow but step up rpms to the
> BLDC motors working as generators  with automotive belts (not toothed
> timing belts but regular slotted flat belts like for waterpump and
> alternators)
>
> Simply find that rpm window where these motors with rotating magnet rotors
> will speed up under loading and not brake from lenz law...it might be just
> 200rpm window such as not under 2000rpm but not under 2200rpm you need to
> test this and find it using speed controller on that prime mover....not
> such a big deal eh..Gary mentioned spilitting the 3ph fields of the BLDC
> motors into three separate fields I will guess this is for the pulsing and
> timing sequencing using hall effects to time but not sure maybe he was
> talking about the prime mover pancake washing machine motor having this
> done to it, not sure about all this but whole concept and working model
> seems very doable and the looper on yacht now seems 100% legitimate to me...
>
> So the looper had two BLDC motors, I do not know their model numbers or
> brands....Gary just belted 4 motors to his flywheel spun by wash machine
> pancake motor (some Samsung model all I know now) I really don't think it
> matters if fisher and paykel or Samsung or LG or maytag or
> whatever....these are great off shelf motors with lots of torque for very
> little input...
>
> Look oin youtube  Don Smith #187 for Gary's duplication confusing video
> however he might have some newer ones.,...Tim the looper builder who sold
> it to yacht owner had some youtuve videos up but I cant access them maybe
> later I can...both these guys open source both not too paranoid too so its
> all good will keep posting don't worry
>
> Kone
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>  .
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