Re: [EVGRAY] Re: LOOPER w/pancake washmachine motor 2BLDCs as gens

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---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 What are the parts on the second LC, not familiar with that schematic part.  Are they a pair of core inductors installed counter wind?
 What is the motor on the smithy lathe AC or DC servo?
 
 
 On 10/19/2018 4:59 PM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... wrote :
 
 
 Hi Hector I know one way to get power using the capacitor winding of my RV to drive a 10:1  step down transformer in series.
 Are you driving a generator using the RV as a motor?
 As you know, I have two Chinese WEG 450 volt three phase 3 hp motors, with decade boxes, to run as Rotoverters.
 I also have DC motors/generators, that I believe are similar to the performance of those shown in your link.
 What is the procedure for looping, using an RV, as a driver?
 I did manage to run one RV off the series transformer from the cap circuit of the other. That required a bit of tricky switching to get everything up to running speed as I can't start my RV with any load, and needing the full blast of the starting capacitor, as usual, in both motors, plus tuning, one, right after another.
 How do you drive your RV  to drive a generator? What voltage do you suggest?
 I used a 12 volt to 120 volt pair of inverters for the earlier tests.
 I did manage to get a cheap 12 to 250 volt inverter on the net, as many European projects with success, seemed to use 250 volts, so I wanted to have the means to try a replication, on hand, should something interesting come up.
 That all said, what do you suggest?
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 8:37 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
   Ash was going to send one of those motors to me , but it never came my way , , one RV  and one as generator suffices for looping with 10 to one RV to it coupling ... another generator that recently was also looped is this one 
 
 http://mwands.com/store/freedom-ii-pmg-permanent-magnet-generator http://mwands.com/store/freedom-ii-pmg-permanent-magnet-generator
 
 smithy lathe servo drive motor can be used to drive it to OU kindom come ! 
 yes you can have an RV looped lathe ! 
 
 Warning ! Tantra required , "divorce is possible ! " Philadelphia experiment effects may arise from it , time compression , inter-dimensional portals & the such including spontaneous teleportation to who knows where ( inside a solid concrete wall as a sample ) . 
 
 so user beware ! 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <konehead@...> mailto:konehead@... wrote :
 
 Hi Dave and Ron
 I'm OK got apartment with wife outside of Seattle now...she has green card too...we are 5 minutes from my old workshop and lab....have not had internet for awhile just got it going..
 I will keep everyone posted on the Gary P duplication of Tim's looper which Tim sold to guy on yacht in S America....All I know is the looper was wash machine pancake motor of older type, that had only 18 coils.....I think any of these sorts of motors will work as prime mover.
 Use hall effects to time it and build or buy some sort of variable speed controller.
 Connect this to a flywheel, spin it fairly slow but step up rpms to the BLDC motors working as generators  with automotive belts (not toothed timing belts but regular slotted flat belts like for waterpump and alternators)
 Simply find that rpm window where these motors with rotating magnet rotors will speed up under loading and not brake from lenz law...it might be just 200rpm window such as not under 2000rpm but not under 2200rpm you need to test this and find it using speed controller on that prime mover....not such a big deal eh..Gary mentioned spilitting the 3ph fields of the BLDC motors into three separate fields I will guess this is for the pulsing and timing sequencing using hall effects to time but not sure maybe he was talking about the prime mover pancake washing machine motor having this done to it, not sure about all this but whole concept and working model seems very doable and the looper on yacht now seems 100% legitimate to me...
 So the looper had two BLDC motors, I do not know their model numbers or brands....Gary just belted 4 motors to his flywheel spun by wash machine pancake motor (some Samsung model all I know now) I really don't think it matters if fisher and paykel or Samsung or LG or maytag or whatever....these are great off shelf motors with lots of torque for very little input...
 Look oin youtube  Don Smith #187 for Gary's duplication confusing video however he might have some newer ones.,...Tim the looper builder who sold it to yacht owner had some youtuve videos up but I cant access them maybe later I can...both these guys open source both not too paranoid too so its all good will keep posting don't worry
 Kone
 
 
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