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George,
Depends on what computer/phone one is using operating system etc. I can
sniff attempts at opening ports that will not open and it is fun to
frustrate them. The main two phones are Apple with IOS and Android,
these both listen as you say when they are "off"
With my Linux phone I see all sorts of attempts that will not execute
both from the phone company proper, SMS commands, and Google
instantiating over IP. Many phone calls now from weird numbers that
just ring and hang up trying to put the phone in back in listen mode.
Part of the trick is to pull a sim card out of the phone it came with
and use in another brand and model without disclosing the phone. If
it's not Andorid or IOS it really causes frustrations to the listeners.
Don't get me wrong, the best place for any cell phone is in a sealed
metal grounded trashcan, but aside from that total solution there are
some good halfway solutions. I no longer receive ads for places I drive
to or shop at right during/after doing so as it always did with the
droid phone.
I am not of the opinion there is nothing we can do so just roll over and
take it because they will win anyways. Short of going to burner phones
this is kind of rewarding for the time being.
On 9/28/2018 7:19 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Mick,
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> They are listening to what you say even if your phone is turned off.
> Some friends went out into a paddock and talked about stuff and when
> they came back their phones had ads for those particular things that
> they talked about. They tried this many time and each time the same
> result with different products etc.
>
> The new appliances like TVs etc, can also listen to what you are
> saying in your house and with the 5G network and smart meters they may
> even know what you are thinking about LOL.
>
> George
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> On Saturday, 29 September 2018, 1:29:51 am AEST, Mick
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Norm,
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> Weird story, never heard that one. Lately I am very unhappy with the
> lack of concern for privacy. Most everyone carries a phone around
> that spies on them for corporations. Google, Apple, Facebook and
> Twitter have become the defacto spy networks. They all can connect to
> ones phone and use it's location, mic or camera at their discretion,
> they even tout these facts in their latest user agreements. Even if
> one has the ability or smarts to lock this off the constitutional
> protections we are supposed to have from government are no longer in
> place for data networks.
>
> I think it is despicable what these companies do. specially Apple who
> has turned against musicians and uses Chinese slave labor at it's
> subsidiary companies like Foxconn building phones. They force
> schoolkids to build phones for free. After school the Chinese slaves
> must go work for Apple vampires or not graduate.
>
> Perhaps Ron has a good point in that he is exchanging the hassle and
> shortcomings of a non commercial OS in order to be secure. I have
> switched to Ubuntu touch for my phone and can say many things dont
> work properly like bluetooth but I gladly forfeit these apps knowing I
> am not carrying a Trojan horse around. Google android is like having
> the NSA in ones back pocket and Apple IOS is like having the Chinese
> MSS in ones pocket. I am sure the two countries have intelligence
> sharing treaties as the fact China are commie murderers doesn't seem
> to phase anyone anymore. The powers that be just want a world war
> with Russia a mostly free society while bending over for Chinese scum,
> I guess the pay is better.
>
>
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> On 9/28/2018 7:18 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Another note that Doug (Kone Head) will well remember goes back
>> several years when we had a real trouble maker on this site. It got
>> so bad that Kone had to break his saber and throw it out the gate
>> along with him. He was a real computer savy guy and right after his
>> being thrown out all of our YAHOO problems began! DUH!
>>
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>> On 9/28/2018 9:08 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Another note about YAHOO, it is so FUCKED UP that Although I can
>>> post and receive messages within the group, I cannot access the
>>> files etc. cause YAHOO says I am not a member. When I try to
>>> register as a member it says CANNOT DO cause you are already a
>>> member. Talked about a FUCKED UP System, you are looking at one!
>>>
>>> My TWO CENTS! Norm
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>>> On 9/28/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>> BTW! Back in the days when Microsoft was trying to get an OS to
>>>> mimic MAC, I installed your LINUX OS and it took me back to the old
>>>> days of running MS DOS. Not operator friendly at all! Good
>>>> for NERDS!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2018 8:44 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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>>>>> I have been running FireFox & Thuunderbird (Mozzila) for last 30
>>>>> years! I guess there is an incompatibility with LINUX
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry you miss out on so many post to the group!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/28/2018 2:43 AM, Eugen Ozon [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>> If you read posts in web page (browser) your yahoo session expire
>>>>>> after a time.
>>>>>> You have to login again (sent user and password) otherwise your
>>>>>> content will apear blank.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On 09/28/2018 01:18 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About one in ten of your posts are just blank for me... and I am
>>>>>>> running Linux mint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Eugen Ozon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plan your work work your Plan
>>>>>> ...Where there is a Will there is a Way...
>>>>>> The More you Know the more you Know you don't Know
>>>>>> Good, Better, Best, Never let it rest, until the Good is the better,
>>>>>> and the Better is the Best,
>>>>>
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