Re: [EVGRAY] Peculiar world...

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Yes of course you are correct but why make it simple for them?  I was
not claiming digital communication is safe as is the tone of your
response, my claim only that one can take some steps to be a little
harder to data mine.

Analog is no saving grace as it is easily digitized.  Actually there is
a form of analog that can be stored as digital information and that is
direct stream digital.  It is similar to how a class D amp works but
instead of analog switching at each defined voltage level the switching
is digitally counted and memorized as a pulse stream.  I call this
digilog because audio recorded in this way can be played back with a
simple analog low pass filter.

Encryption in analog, interesting concept! How fine would you encode
that with more dynamic range than lets say 64 bit digital which goes way
beyond the theoretical performance of analog circuitry. Would like to
hear your concepts on this format of encryption.

I was not sleeping and know something about security and encryption and
it is possible to be pretty damn secure digitally, if one wants to go
even further change to lattice encryption if one is afraid of quantum
cracks.

Every phone call is recorded now this is obvious, but leaving a thin
data trail rather than spreading information everywhere, especially the
corporate players who already claim to be recording and monitoring, who
the fuck needs that?


On 9/28/2018 9:54 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> PRIVACY????? You have to kidding me!  Put on your thinking cap and
> turn the selection to LOGIC!  Back when the decision was made to shift
> all forms of communications and data into the digital format from
> analog was your surrender of any privacy at all.  Just take a look at
> what has gone down while you were sleeping!
>
> https://www.quora.com/Can-analog-signals-be-stored-in-a-memory-If-not-why  
> Just think about an encryption algorithm in analog!!   Since you are
> dealing with infinity, it cannot be de-crypted!  The powers to be
> would not be happy!
>
> https://www.quora.com/Can-analog-signals-be-stored-in-a-memory-If-not-why     
> Your goose is cooked!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/14/nsa-utah-data-facility  
> Fully operational with capability and does store every key stroke you
> make and every card swipe you do!  ALL from over the entire globe!
>
> https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/08/summit-supercomputer-research-ai-oak-ridge/     
> Now that is not the final statement!  Looking over the near horizon!
>
> https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/toshiya-hari-quantum-computing.html?mediaIndex=1&autoPlay=true&cid=sch-pd-google-outsidersquantumcomputing-sitelink-20183--&mkwid=eaBHVnnV&gclid=CjwKCAjworfdBRA7EiwAKX9HeHC3TBFrY2nnKhnKAXtVYWOafxaI-ktP92CyarvHk3yrnvRvzwpRShoChyoQAvD_BwE     
> These Quantum Computers are already running in test!  You do not have
> a prayer to hide anything!  Like in the Movie ID-4 (Independence Day,
> the good guys had to resort to the old analog Morse code and so will
> the ham operators that still have analog transceivers.   Just use your
> LOGICAL mind!
>
> On 9/28/2018 10:29 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Norm,
>>
>> Weird story, never heard that one.  Lately I am very unhappy with the
>> lack of concern for privacy.  Most everyone carries a phone around
>> that spies on them for corporations.  Google, Apple, Facebook and
>> Twitter have become the defacto spy networks.  They all can connect
>> to ones phone and use it's location, mic or camera at their
>> discretion, they even tout these facts in their latest user
>> agreements.  Even if one has the ability or smarts to lock this off
>> the constitutional protections we are supposed to have from
>> government are no longer in place for data networks.
>>
>> I think it is despicable what these companies do. specially Apple who
>> has turned against musicians and uses Chinese slave labor at it's
>> subsidiary companies like Foxconn building phones.  They force
>> schoolkids to build phones for free.  After school the Chinese slaves
>> must go work for Apple vampires or not graduate.
>>
>> Perhaps Ron has a good point in that he is exchanging the hassle and
>> shortcomings of a non commercial OS in order to be secure.  I have
>> switched to Ubuntu touch for my phone and can say many things dont
>> work properly like bluetooth but I gladly forfeit these apps knowing
>> I am not carrying a Trojan horse around.   Google android is like
>> having the NSA in ones back pocket and Apple IOS is like having the
>> Chinese MSS in ones pocket.  I am sure the two countries have
>> intelligence sharing treaties as the fact China are commie murderers
>> doesn't seem to phase anyone anymore.  The powers that be just want a
>> world war with Russia a mostly free society while bending over for
>> Chinese scum, I guess the pay is better.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/28/2018 7:18 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Another note that Doug (Kone Head) will well remember goes back
>>> several years when we had a real trouble maker on this site. It got
>>> so bad that Kone had to break his saber and throw it out the gate
>>> along with him. He was a real computer savy guy and right after his
>>> being thrown out all of our YAHOO problems began!   DUH!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/28/2018 9:08 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Another note about YAHOO, it is so FUCKED UP that Although I can
>>>> post and receive messages within the group, I cannot access the
>>>> files etc. cause YAHOO says I am not a member. When I try to
>>>> register as a member it says CANNOT DO cause you are already a
>>>> member.  Talked about a FUCKED UP System, you are looking at one!
>>>>
>>>> My TWO CENTS!  Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW!  Back in the days when Microsoft was trying to get an OS to
>>>>> mimic MAC, I installed your LINUX OS and it took me back to the
>>>>> old days  of running MS DOS.   Not  operator friendly at all!  
>>>>> Good for NERDS!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/28/2018 8:44 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been running FireFox & Thuunderbird (Mozzila) for last 30
>>>>>> years! I guess there is an incompatibility with LINUX
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry you miss out on so many post to the group!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/28/2018 2:43 AM, Eugen Ozon [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you read posts in web page (browser) your yahoo session
>>>>>>> expire after a time.
>>>>>>> You have to login again (sent user and password) otherwise your
>>>>>>> content will apear blank.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/28/2018 01:18 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About one in ten of your posts are just blank for me... and I
>>>>>>>> am running Linux mint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Eugen Ozon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plan your work work your Plan
>>>>>>>  ...Where there is a Will there is a Way...
>>>>>>> The More you Know the more you Know you don't Know
>>>>>>> Good, Better, Best, Never let it rest,  until the Good is the better,
>>>>>>> and the Better is the Best, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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