Re: [EVGRAY] Re: RF power factor?

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Hector, we were talking about feeding a fully power corrected signal
through the feedline then the phase mod to rf right at the antenna, this
opens up all sorts of possibilities specially in burst modulation.  As
you say if some of these concepts are put through any distance of
transmission line output devices will likely fry and of course speed
will drop to molasses.

What is your issue with 5g, it's at a higher frequency and penetrated
even less?  At a few feet away a 2 watt signal off a dipole becomes
microwatts, surely you are not of the persuasion these are health risks
at proper distances?

I love what those two guys up In Russia build great antenna they made,
similar to an "acoustic laser"

Sure I would love to build an entangled walkie talkie toy pair but don't
know how to entangle them, assuming the crystals are processed as such.


On 8/31/2018 5:10 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> On discones
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> I got one sent from Canada as a gift  a harvest 130  and bought a
> second one  a tram 1411
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> I modified the harvest  to take a long 3/8- 24 threaded rod and can
> use any standard or complex whip with it  , will use a 11 & 10  meter 
> whip
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> will also modify the tram one as is sensitive to water intrusion and
> failure
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> idea is to be able to use The TYT 9800 in its full spectrum capability
> eliminating the design failure flaws that will end burning it ,,,,
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> today's antennas are a bunch of crap , junk ,  not to mention the
> radios !
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> currently i had not set up base , using portables at the time ....
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> its evident i will have to make my own antennas , thinking in ISS and
> satellite
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> my time is real tied up lately ....
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> on the networking comments you need to deepen your knowledge base
> as to work solutions on the specific things you want to work in , in
> data, time is the key and if you don't regulate the specific phase
> shifting in your antennas and feed-lines you will be screwed big time
> , you will have a mess of a QRM crossover problem .. ( try building an
> oscillator frequency  entangled toy radio walky talky pair) you can
> talk & listen on the same entangled phased signal  , distance and
> placement is critical .. de-phasing the audio avoids feedback .. (
> then apply to network enhancement )
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> I tend to run away from WIFI and 5G even being able to work WIFI 40
> miles .
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>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-nj_BwoBE
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> (use stainless steel screws ! ) and shield yourself to avoid brain burn !
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> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Hector,
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> I was thinking of a MIMO phase synchronized burst so packets conform
> to the modulation rather than the other way around.  This way one
> could use the hyperbolic accelerated circular polarization and retain
> some spectral density at a high Q factor narrowband.  Futureshit as
> the transcoding and modulation would require some serious calculations
> realtime. Yeah an LP would work great for this, perhaps an othagonal pair.
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> Hey did you setup a diskcone antenna for your emergency comm or yagi
> or LP with a rotator?
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> It's hard for me to grasp the parabolic transmitter antenna on voyager
> doesn't  spread enough to loose all signal by the time it gets this
> far, what is the tightest RF beamformer you know of?
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> On 8/31/2018 3:53 PM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     On the contrary if using MIMO  networking topology you will have
>>     to broadband in order to execute multiplexing of several
>>     receivers & transmitters being simultaneously sharing the
>>     antennas and or array . a log periodic antenna structure may be
>>     more efficient., making it omni-directional thats a horse of a
>>     different color (think discone or double cone ) Or a
>>     microprocessor controlled phase array as data distortion will be
>>     a problem with increased data rates ..well depends on your
>>     application ... and type of encoding & digital modulation scheme
>>     you use and its error correction method .
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>>     Spatial multiplexing will give you more efficiency in data rates
>>     & spectrum usage ....( alike internet time packet channeling )
>>     turning on & off duty cycles of several antennas RX TRX ......
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>>      WP4QIN-G     © Ark Research RF science & POWER engineering  
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>>     The published material is not for patent as constitutes part of
>>     copyrighted material . other rights apply . 1963 , 2018 ©
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>>     (H)
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>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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>>     Thanks Hector very cool insights!  Add in staggered phase
>>     polarized nodes and the antenna gain could go up exponentially
>>     but would likely only work with burst modulation techniques so
>>     the spectral density would likely drop unless the nodes were MIMO.
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>>     On 8/31/2018 12:14 PM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>          
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>>>         Well that is something that can be experimented , i see
>>>         there is much loss in the transmission line used for RF  and
>>>         if we see the input power does not reflect any gain in the
>>>         conversion from DC to RF in the resultant terminal power
>>>         transmission other than the antenna multiplication factor ..
>>>
>>>         then lets  say we have a FREQUENCY amplifier with a unity
>>>         power factor  non RF (non-radiating power signal ) feeding a
>>>         phase shifting impedance network at the antenna that changes
>>>         the Phased POWER signal  to non phased RF. will multiply the
>>>         power by a factor of seven within the antenna RF emitting
>>>         nodes. coupled to the natural antenna multiplication factor
>>>         , you can imagine , what is pumping 100W NON RF phased
>>>         signal into a De-phasing impedance match resonant to antenna
>>>         element  and getting 700W RF effective power at a dipole ...
>>>
>>>         RV goes farther than anyone can think ... its just not just
>>>         motors & energy savings ..
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>>>          WP4QIN-G     © Ark Research RF science & POWER engineering  
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>>>         The published material is not for patent as constitutes part
>>>         of copyrighted material . other rights apply . 1963 , 2018 ©
>>>
>>>           Hector D Perez Torres.   ARK RESEARCH
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>>>          
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>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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>>>         Hector,
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>>>         If one has a perfect impedance match to a transmission line
>>>         and antenna
>>>         for a 1:1 swr is there any time a reactive power factor
>>>         transmits
>>>         further than a unity power factor maybe with a certain
>>>         asymmetric
>>>         antenna design?
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