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Hello! Ole and Kone, I sincerely have to call you guys out here on
the concept of how all electrostatic machines work. I have provided
proof of how the various methods of creating potential differential in
electrostatics only to find you guys retrograding back to beating on
logs with clubs. Lets go over it again in case you missed something.
Over the years I built many electrostatic devices and was always
fascinated over how they worked. Back when I worked with Leonard
Dorset and his Super Steam Technology, I paid him to go to the Dallas
Main Library and pull up all that was available on electrostatics for I
wanted answers as to how the charge separation actually worked. The
impetus behind the search was the Armstrong Machine that is in the
London Polytech Museum. The steam driven machine was one of the most
powerful ever built and worked at the phase change point in steam
condensation in the insulated nozzle design. It has been know for a
very long time that there is a discrepancy in Thermodynamics of
Chemistry and has been written about in many text books regarding the
presence of more electrons after the phase change back to liquid form
from steam. A Physicist (Austria) lectured on this subject at one of
Hal Puthoff Conference at Austin. Phase change is a method to drag
that aetheric energy out of the space background. There are many
applications of electrostatic machines that operate in a hard vacuum
therefore do not have the air as a contributing media for electron
sourcing. You seem to forget the wonderful book by Joseph Cater,
Awesome Life Force in which he explains the difference between hard
electrons and soft electrons. The greatest example of wrong beliefs
regarding the source of charge separation was the Felici Electrostatic
generator that operates in a sealed environment of 30 atmosphere
pressure of .99% pure hydrogen gas and is the most powerful machines
ever built with a 3KW output at half million volts. I asked you the
question as to where the charge comes from in this environment????? If
you download the book The Physics of the Primary State of Matter,
Davson, Karl Schappeller, you will find that in a hard vacuum there is
the phenomenon of Glowing Magnetism (Cold Plasma) which is highly
concentrated aetheric energy. Look at the Felici machine.
Quote! Look for the principle of inversion in free energy devices or
some kind of parametric pumping. If wanting high voltage perhaps make
the voltage ionize the air like the Swiss Testatika does which pulls out
energy by sorting the charges of the air molecules (ions) according to
information given to Albert Hauser from Paul Baumann. Baumann told
Hauser that the Testatika would stop if left in a closed room without
air movement. Leaving a window partly open or having people moving
around in the room would make it continue its running. WRONG!!!!!
Regards
Ole
Oh! Lets clear the air on BACK EMF, Please!
BACK EMF
I am having a big problem with the loose use of terminology on all on
these web sites regarding "BACK EMF".Everyone, PLEASE pick up anyhandy
physics book and look up "LENZ'S LAW" and read very carefully just what
back emf really is.When an electromotive force is applied to an
inductor, a counter force is generated which is in opposition to the
primary force through self induction. This is what causes the current to
lag the voltage in an inductive circuit while the magnetic field is
building.When we cut off the primary current in the inductor an
electromotive force is generated via the collapse of the magnetic field
and can be correctly called the
"INDUCTIVE KICK BACK". The rate of collapse of this magnetic flux
directly determines the magnitude of the "spike voltage" generated. What
you are seeing is energy compressed in time.This is the reason that an
inductor can be energized with, let's say 12 volts DC and a sudden
collapse of the magnetic field can produce a spike of several hundred
volts.(conservation of energy)Don't feel bad about the misunderstanding
of these terms for if you go to an Internet search under "BACK EMF" you will
find many sites totally confusedand miss using the terms.One site has a
demonstration of an inductor with a light bulb in parallel that flashes
when the circuit is opened and they call it "BACK EMF".Wrong, it is
inductive kick back from a collapsing magnetic field.
Thanks in advance for you guys taking the time to review the text
book.Norm
Remember Mick, You have been saying Differential? Well, here is what is
happening which agrees with Hal Puthoff paper on the spontaneous
formation of hydrogen from space background from free protons. Please
review Irving Langmuir
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Langmuir> Atomic Hydrogen. Here
is my theory as to how the 3000watts of HVDC is created in a 30 atm.
atmosphere of .9999 pure hydrogen gas. In the Lanfmuir torch a high
voltage charge breaks the H2 bond creating monatomic hydrogen (atoms).
Same with the Felici Generator, the operating gas is Atomic Hydrogen.
According to Hal Puthoff, if a hydrogen atom looses an electron it is
immediately replenished by the Zero Point space background. The Felici
Generator is a zero Point Energy Generator or PUMP. I had an
interesting discussion with Ken (RIP) Shoulders at a New Energy
Symposium in Denver. I asked him what type of power supply he used in
charging his HVDC capacitor banks for the Charged Cluster experiments.
His reply was an Electrostatic Influence Machine (Holtz Machine). He
said that if you apply a potential of lets say 100,000 Volts across a
capacitor it will charge because you have stressed the dielectric
(dielectric displacement). Interesting answer to say the least. The
charged capacitors will do work. Same with the Felici Generator for the
3,000 watt output will do work drawing the energy from the space
background. See! Mick, I had to answer my own question for nobody
thinks about the perplexing problems. Ha! Ha! Norm
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja02208a003
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding
http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron / atom, where
does the electrons come from in the Felici HV Electrostatic Generator??
I have issued this challenge before with no comments.
On 7/20/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Going back to a subject not fully understood. What is Heat? Which has
more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot surface = holes due to missing
electrons vs cold surface= packing of electrons until all holes are
filled (absolute zero conditions) BTW, absolute zero conditions, there
is no Browning Motion for there are no holes for electrons to move in
the atomic lattice. See:
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
Put on your thinking caps! Norm
On 8/21/2018 6:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Kone,
>
> Back EMF is the generated voltage working against the voltage driving
> a motor. Only the difference between the voltage driving and the
> voltage generated (back EMF) is what actually drives current through
> the motor.
>
> I think Bedini use coherent fields in his wheels giving off free
> energy. He has a description of a coil having several parallel strands
> of insulated wire. Each wire is driven by its own transistor. This
> could be for mixing several separate fields into a single coherent
> field and then harvest the difference in energy. Pierre Cotnoir also
> seems to use this principle. The difference is that when calculating
> the energy of the separate fields the current is squared before being
> added when seen from the input side while the currents are added and
> then squared when seen from the output side. It's the current term of
> the formula that is squared when calculating the energy. This is the
> principle of inversion according to Wilbert B. Smith and is a way to
> pull out energy from the cosmic background field. Many free energy
> inventors may not actually know why their devices work like Lester
> Hendershot who could make his device work but could not scale it up or
> down. This looks like he didn't know precisely why it worked. Same
> could hold true for Bedini.
>
> Look for the principle of inversion in free energy devices or some
> kind of parametric pumping. If wanting high voltage perhaps make the
> voltage ionize the air like the Swiss Testatika does which pulls out
> energy by sorting the charges of the air molecules (ions) according to
> information given to Albert Hauser from Paul Baumann. Baumann told
> Hauser that the Testatika would stop if left in a closed room without
> air movement. Leaving a window partly open or having people moving
> around in the room would make it continue its running.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Ole
>
> Thanks its very good clear description and info...
>
> I watched a vides by Bedini the other day and he was telling a crowd
> around him that when the flyback occurs (he calls it back emf) what is
> occurring is that the bloch-wall (the center of the coil where N meets
> S you could say) gets shoved or moved way over to "one side" when the
> coil collapses upon switch opening which is interesting way to look at
> what happens...he was saying that the altitude of the collapsing field
> affects the energy giving out from the coil and he verified this by
> going to top of mountain at least this is what I get from the
> video....here it is
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtGz4QHJ0e4
>
>