Re: [EVGRAY] Re: flyback puse analogous to capacitor?

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Warren,

R/C time constant is always calculated for resonant circuits but as you
mention then we move on and kind of forget about time.  The transient
response of a capacitor denotes it's quality factor or Q.   In other
words how fast those sails can fill or empty of wind.  I like to think
of caps more like dams and reservoirs of water.  How fast can that lake
fill or empty is the transient response and how big the lake is the
number of farads.  How much water pressure it can hold before punching a
hole through the dam is the voltage.  I am sure you can guess the water
analogy of an inductor.

You are right about time not always being mentioned other than frequency
which is only one dimension of the time.  A scope should really be in 3d
and we would see a spinning helical wave like a screw thread rather than
a sine wave.

As Ole has mentioned if we calculate all of a circuit taking time as
more than just an afterthought then we would be using transmission line
theory like Ivor Catt, or even relative electromagnetism as Liegh Page
did in the 30's or 40's and was able to derive a complete system
including Maxwells equations from only the Lorentz transform and
Coulombs law.  Using the Liegh Page approach we can integrate
Schauberger's vortex as inertial frames under acceleration.  He is
another often overlooked character in our field of research.


On 8/21/2018 1:49 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Doug
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> the spike in space rather than the scope image we visualise, some
> variation of a sine wave, is more like a fireball without gravity.
> It expands outward in all directions, including time.
> Capacitors capture part of this event in forms we might articulate two
> dimensionally, or even more.
> They almost act as sail boat sails in space, blocking and capturing
> the energy event, polarizing it like a filter.
> We rarely discuss time in this filtering action.
> Perhaps it is too troublesome?
> Flyback reflections?
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 1:18 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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>     Hi Ole
>     The sink or source power quadrants I look at as sort of flat scale
>     but with flyback it happens at border line between sink and source
>     perhaps you could say, and it shoots out "sideways" either at you
>     or away from you, and in my brain it shoots both at you and away
>     from you at same time "flash" too for near twice the speed of
>     light (perhaps you could say)
>     So I think Mick and I are asking the same question (sort of) and
>     what would be the analogy of the flyback spike in coil to whatever
>     the opposite would be.in a capacitor.
>     All I can think of is the immediate inherent back emf force in
>     electrical flow that resists the movement....but perhaps upon
>     discharge of cap there is something else not looked at so much
>     since it stays within the walls of the capacitor does not do
>     damage like flyback spike....(I don't know just thinking)
>     Kone
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