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NormanDo you at this time still have access to one of these buzzers?They can't be rocket science to make one from scratch if necessary. I bought a vintage model T coil a few weeks ago for $15 , a device that incorporates a buzzer as part of the spark circuit, to activate the inductor.Cheers Warren
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 at 7:56 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:
A biblical saying, Genesis One, Let there be light and the light shown brightly in the firmament! Ok! Lets go back to the very beginning with the my buzzer and Hectors Coil Banger and Joel's COILBACK experiments. See: Neutral Spike doc.
This buzzer is made by EDWARDS, called a LUNGEN
BUZZER, CAT. NO 15-2G5 24 V AC 60 HZ.
Schematic:
Oh! BTW, If you are well insulated from a ground source, you can hold the metal frame of the buzzer and not get a shock. If you are earth grounded and touch the metal frame while buzzing you will get the approximately 2000VAC. The relationship is between the iron and the earth ground. Remember that a 120VAC to 24 VAC step down transformer secondary winding is isolated from earth ground (That is how isolation transformers work).
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Message 4577 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 20:44
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Today I found an elegant and simple way to prove my theory on the source of
the NEUTRAL SPIKE. I was working in a nursing home installing some simple
buzzers on the door alarm system and was testing and tuning the sound level
of the audio output (the loudness of the buzz) when I got a shock that
nearly took me right off the ladder. Now this buzzer is powered by 24V AC
and you can't get a shock out of 24VAC but when you consider the SPIKE
PHENOMENON it is awesome. This buzzer is made by EDWARDS, called a LUNGEN
BUZZER, CAT. NO 15-2G5 24 V AC 60 HZ. I suggest all that are interested in
duplicating the following experiment, go to your local electrical supply
house and get this particular model for it has features that are ideal for
the purpose of producing NEUTRAL SPIKES. This buzzer is constructed so as
both sides of the 24V AC is floating (insulated) with the solid steel (not
laminated) core is grounded to the frame or metal case. The solid steel
core is of very mild steel which aggravates the production of spike
potential. Remember I said you need to think backwards? Yes we want a
magnetic core which has the most horrible spike producing characteristics.
If there is an engineer out there who could suggest an ideal material for
this application, by all means speak up for I would love input and
participation in this project. I brought home a new buzzer and hooked it
up to a standard 24V AC step-down transformer and attached my multi-meter
(Fluke 87)meter with one lead (black ground) to the case of the buzzer and
used the red lead to test the potential on the two buzzer terminals. With
24V AC running the buzzer I measured over 2000V coming out of the iron core
of the buzzer. What is interesting is the fact that with the adjusting
screw I could vary the voltage output by changing the frequency of the
buzzer contacts. Now to build a similar device that will enable me to
explore a possible resonant region that may exist related to this
phenomenon. I am willing to bet that there will prove to be a definite
relationship to inductance/impedance of the coil and stray capacitance that
may be involved in the simple circuit. Therefore I will be looking for a
point of resonance that will maximize the spike output. Before the TESLA
COIL builders out there jump in and say it is a simple voltage multiplying
based on impedance ratio, well I only have one coil (no secondary). Joel,
put that in your pipe and smoke it a while and see if you can see a
solution other than magnetic constricting as you described earlier in one
of you messages. If a saturating magnetic flux is driving electrons
directly out of the iron atoms then visualize the potential here since this
whole planet is practically iron. NORM
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Message 4583 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 23:07
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: Negative Spike
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Hi Norm,
Count on me for confirmation of this. About the same time that I uploaded
COILBAK, I also uploaded COILUNIT, which is a 12VDC relay, energized
through its normally closed contacts, so that it would open/close
continuously at very close to its aggregate resonance, just like the old
vibrators that they used in car radios to produce AC for the vacuum tube
radios. They never lasted too long as they would beat themselves to death,
but they usually outlasted the warranty. Anyway, COILUNIT produces those
same high negative spikes, and when connected to a rechargeable battery,
once the battery accepts the spikes, the terminal voltage stops falling,
and the voltage stabilizes. This is how the Dutch inventor got so many
miles on his electric motorcycle. Anyway, it is subject to mechanical time
delays, so it is not an above-unity device, which leads to the "cranky"
semiconductors that Woody spoke of, and which COILBAK depends upon. The
spikes are exactly as you describe. Thanks again, my friend.
Joel
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Message 4585 DATE/TIME: 01/27/94 07:55
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Negative Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
To all out there who may want to experiment with the generation of neutral
spike energy,please be advised that to do so you must "float the ground" or
neutral to get a handle on the spikes coming out of the iron. In
electrical circles this is a "NO NO" because electrical engineers consider
spikes as a nuisance and bothersome output that they try to totally
suppress because of it's destructive properties. Since the voltages go off
the scale and sometimes have current magnitudes that they elect not to deal
with they simply install varistors and such devices to effectively take
this unwanted energy to earth ground. Our objective is to conserve all
this energy and put it to some use. My advice is just be careful when
dealing with any electrical device on which you are working that has a
floating neutral or earth ground. Norm
On 8/4/2018 10:08 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norm,
I am investigating the return strike from lightening in relation to the neutral spike. The two experiments you just mention are earthed however you mention the neutral spike from a door buzzer also and Hector mentions it in relation to the rotoverter creating an emp neutral spike event. I don't recall that either the buzzer or the rotoverter require the bonded ground or a grounded neutral. I had a buzzer when I was a kid that would do something similar if one touched the switching relay but found one a few months back looked the same but does nothing. I remember that buzzer being fearsome with only a little battery as it felt like a 220 shock with current.
SO this distinction I ask to be clarified as the term neutral spike would denote a connection to ground but some of these devices seem to have a similar effect when decoupled from ground.
On 8/3/2018 3:22 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Mick! I really do not understand what it is that you do not understand! There have been two different scenarios with my bench top simulation of the Neutral Spike experiment where the effect was successfully created. The last one was with a 5HP A/C compressor that uses both start and run capacitors needed to create the effect. Go back and review the whole setup that I have posted to the group several times. The iron motor frame was bonded to a 10 ft. ground stake (EARTH BOND). The 230VAC supply to the motor was 2 ea. 8ga. conductors (L-1& L-2) with no neutral (single phase hook up). When an adjustable (locked rotor current detector) over current relay would drop out L-1 & L-2 supply to motor leaving it in an isolated condition since there was no neutral in schematic. You have a magnetically saturated motor and charged capacitors that are separated from the earth bonded metal frame via the dielectric in the insulation involved. In both cases, I found that the isolation of charge (both magnetic flux and electric via capacitors (45mfd) created the EMP (Neutral Spike when the stored energy was cancelled. The very first encounter was with the little 1/6 HP fan motor that created the same effect as the big experiment. That case there was a zip cord (3 ea. 18 ga. conductors) L-1 ,a neutral and an earth green bonding wire involved. Due to a Chinese worker miss wiring a double pole reversing switch which caused the isolation of the run capacitor when the switch was in transition from forward run to reverse, the EMP shot was created. The whole thing is summed up with isolation of charge, both magnetic and electric charge!
On 8/3/2018 10:07 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norm,
Can you define the neutral spike with and without the earth ground involved?
On 7/31/2018 5:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Doug & Warren, I love your thinking process for designing a circuit (Ardino ?) that rapidly tracks the capacitance values needed to zero in on the targeted frequency for hard ferroresonance. Since solid state will not survive the environment, just use the circuits to control hard tubes like the thyratron do do the heavy lifting. Auto tracking circuits can be made to mitigate (avoid) the ferroresonance phenomenon, therefore the same circuit can auto target the values needed to capture the circuit parameters needed. Just my two cents thrown in, soon we will have a whole $dollar! Lol PS: Doug, I like the Fuck it, just Short Circuit! On my 5 HP compressor locked rotor experiment, I used a simple overload relay which was set for drop out at locked rotor amps (82 amps) which gave me the super saturation of the motor iron when the 2 pole single phase contactor (230 VAC) opened thus leaving the whole shebang in an isolated condition (no ground reference). When the isolated energy (magnetic saturated iron and 45mfd caps) cancelled, I got the EMP shot in the earth ground, Neutral Spike. Your thinking is right on! Norm
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Message 4126 DATE/TIME: 01/07/94 23:54
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
OK folks let's start some real controversy for I have a theory that
has been bothering me for a long time and is based on real world
experience and not just idle thinking. In my day-to-day work I deal
with rather large electric motors of the type that utilize large start
and run capacitors such as is found in air conditioning equipment etc.
On many occasions I have witnessed these motors release extremely high
voltage and high amperage pulses or spikes whenever we try to start
this type of motor in a locked or semi-locked rotor condition. What I
am going to describe is the controversial point and that is the fact
that the observed high voltage spike that is very destructive to all
electronic equipment is actually coming from the neutral side of the
line or the earth ground bonding. I have seen motors nearby that are
turned off actually run backwards. Since these motors were of shaded
pole design this suggest that a very unusual form of electricity is
responsible for this phenomenon, that is “negative electricity”. The shaded pole motor can only run one direction based on it's design
unless you provide extra shading windings to provide for reversal or
some other phenomenon such as negative current could run it backwards.
Another clue as to the presence of negative electricity is the fact
that large switches and contactors have their contacts either
completely destroyed or welded together by large currents at high
voltage carried over relatively small wires. What is going on here has
been eluded to by many researchers in the past such as Tesla when he
said that the key to free energy was in IRON for it was a unique
element that has 2 free electrons in the M shell of the atom that can
be bounced free for use only to be replenished from the ether. He stated that a free energy device would be based on a fine grade of steel to take advantage of this unique feature of iron. Dr. Tewari,in his book "Beyond Mater" brings out the same fact and is the heart of the famed "N Machine". The best source of an insight as to how this works is found in Dr. Harold Aspden's presentation to the IANS Conference of 1993 titled "The World's Energy Future". In this paper Aspden outlines what occurs when you bring an iron mass to magnetic saturation and allow it to relax. A release of ZPE or ZERO POINT ENERGY comes out of the iron. Yule Brown says it best, "We should think everything backwards in this field of free energy". The backwards thinking comes into play in the fact that when the free electrons in the M shell of the iron atoms are freed they flow out of the iron itself therefore are present in the neutral or earth bond side of the circuit and not in the hot or supply side of the conventional circuit. When you excite atoms to a high electron state and allow them to return to ground state they release photons of energy but retain their original energy levels with no degradation therefore the energy that was lost by photon emission has been replaced from space vacuum or ZPE. The key to releasing the 2 free electrons in each iron atom is in the degree of magnetic saturation that occurs in our device design. I have read several papers in the Keely files that incorporate magnetic saturation of iron in the basic design of the device such as the Gray Motor that used bucking opposing magnetic fields to pop the iron electrons free. The error most researchers are making is that they are looking for the energy manifestation to occur in the conductors associated with the design but should be looking at the ground or earth bond side of the circuit. All electric motors have a bonding or ground wire attached to the iron stator which in most cases is the neutral side of the input line. I hope that this input to the free energy puzzle will prompt some massage of gray matter and maybe we can build the future machine we have all been looking for. Norm
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Message 4128 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 09:02
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Now for some additional notes on the subject of neutral spikes or ZPE
occurrences let's look at the all too familiar Tesla coil that is so
popular because of the splendid fireworks display they produce. Tesla
said that in order to do effective work a large coil should not produce
sparking or a corona discharge about the elevated capacitance. ????????
Your immediate response is, have is the work taped and where is it
occurring? Well Mr. Tesla clearly stated that the whole purpose of
designing a device that would operate at full free resonance at the
earth natural frequency of 7.83 HZ (he used 8 HZ in his day) was to
produce a power wave that would pump electrons directly in and out of
the earth via a deep grounding system that was firmly attached to the
earth. I have talked to many tesla coil builders and have found not
one who was interested in exploring the ZPE pumping of electrons
directly in and out of a deep earth ground such as Tesla had planed to
use at Wardencliff, Long Island. If you read carefully such documents
as D.C. Cox "Modern Resonance Transformer Design" you will find clearly
stated that a deep or good earth ground is necessary and this conductor
must be a cable of substantial size for a considerable current of earth
pumped electrons does occur when the coil is operating at full free
resonance. He states that if an attempt is made to earth ground a coil
with zip cord it will result in a burned up ground wire. Well I might
be dense or otherwise afflicted but this sure sounds like ZPE tapping
to me. Why can't Tesla coil builders out there explore this phenomenon
to determine the over-unity aspects of a Tesla coil that is operated at
full resonance and better yet modulate one to get an earth resonant
power wave of approximately 7.83 HZ. I say approximately for I don't
think anyone has successfully nailed down the exact earth resonant
frequency as of yet. This figure is close enough for government work
at this time or until someone comes up with a more precise figure. I
belabor the point for out there lies those who will say, "You missed
the freq by .01 HZ", You know them as pain in the ass nit-pickers.
Keep the focus on the over-unity aspects and not on precise detail. I
have tossed this out on the table of debate so as to prompt input from
the many out there who have taken the well spent time to study the
basic Tesla coil designs parameters and can give us back some
meaningful input. Let's hear or read some feed-back from the depths
of this KeelyNet. Your friend Norm.
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Message 4129 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 10:40
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! EXCELLENT cubed!!!
The grounding is similar to what the Rogers underground communication
system says must happen...that an energy is inside the planet and be
modulated just like slapping the surface of water, except in this
instance it's more like a hydrophone (underwater speaker/microphone for
those who don't know what a hydrophone is).
Anyway, as I understood Tesla, he said the Earth could be pumped up
like a large capacitor and it was done at the resonant frequency
(around 8HZ, depending on which version of the Schumann peaks one wants
to use) of the Earth. The waves of this energetically vibrating
planetary capacitor would thus form peaks and valleys. By tuning to
this frequency and adjusting so the phase was matched, one could thus
tap the energy. I was always puzzled by the Colorado Springs
experiment where farmers and citizens for miles from the site
complained of drawing arcs from the ground to their feet as they
walked. This is what made me regard the Earth as power source
experiments irrelevant, i.e. because with all the electronics we have
now, it just would destroy everything...
However, your premise that iron is the secret to tapping the negative
force flow makes sense in many ways which we can discuss in person.
Interesting that some of the UFO reports said Earth was considered a
treasure house BECAUSE OF IRON...a rare element in the galaxy???
Perhaps Iron has the relaxation effect Bearden writes about, but I
think you are more down to earth with the 2 electron
description...something we can measure and work with NOW, until the
optimum relaxation time material shows up through experiment or
calculation.
You know, Moray's device also required a very long ANTENNA and the
deeper the ground, the more power he could tap...perhaps the earth has
shells of varying power densities.
But your message is definitely worthy of conversion to a file....>>>
Jerry
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Message 4147 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 22:20
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: Ground Spikes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
I used to live in Spain, and there, they ground the NEUTRAL side of the
line, because spikes which originate there can blow both wiring and xfmrs.
I think that you are asking the same questions which Ed Gray asked,
before he used the inductive spikes from low DC to charge to high DC in
capacitors, and discharge to drive his patented over-unity motor. It
was how the coilbak was designed to work, based on Ed Gray's work.
Tesla first had to convert his output to sine wave, no easy task, and
then use a mechanical pendulum to modulate it at 8Hz, because elec.
timers run fast in the tachyon field. I've seen that, even with my
little coil. Having done that, however, he could resonate earth and
boost his output, as well as transmit power without wires.
We "little Teslas" would have to do the same thing, on a smaller scale,
to get earth resonance.
CUL
Joel
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Message 4150 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 10:54
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel: read your reply and wish to clarify a few points such as I
probably have in my library the largest collection of Tesla related
documentation for I have been studying him for the last 10 years. Yes
I am fully aware of how Tesla modulated his coil to get the 8 HZ power
wave. Kovack in the ESJ article back in Sept. brought up some very
interesting ideas about high voltage and high freq rectification so as
to provide a ultra high voltage DC electrostatic charge in the elevated
terminal capacitance that could easily be converted into a beautiful
8HZ sine wave by the use of a large period pendulum such as Tesla
employed at Colorado Springs. Besides the mercury tube rectifier that
Kovack outlined in ESJ there is another method of high voltage/ high
freq rectification that Tesla patented which is easier to achieve and
could be applied to your small coil for research purposes. Look at
Tesla's Patents on AC/DC rectification in the volume on TESLA PATENTS.
A totally magnetic method of AC rectification which is simple and can
be applied to any voltage or freq. I did not ask a question but
instead tried to lay out some evidence as to the correct approach to a
vexing problem of solving the over-unity puzzle. Your friend Norm
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Message 4153 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 11:49
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel: some additional food for thought, study the Wardencliff Tower
that was almost complete when the financial plug was pulled and you
will see no pendulum tower or any evidence of the use of a pendulum for
the purpose of modulation. I believe that Tesla had devised a method
of modulation or forming 8HZ sine waves through the magnetic pinching
of a plasma in the connection between the elevated capacitance and the
deep earth ground system that was so elaborately constructed at
Wardencliff. Kovack Corum and others are under the same thought about
the use of forming a slow low freq sine wave directly through the use
of plasma modulation of an ultra high voltage electrostatic charge.
Remember that Tesla was famous for his little mechanical or hydraulic
analogs to electrical problems that he was trying to explain. Just
remember the little girl on the swing, If you fire the positive half of
a 8HZ or earth resonant wave into the ground the earth will respond
with the negative half of the same wave if your input is exactly in
phase and synchronized. You only have to put in a small input to bring
forth a magnification or reinforcing effect.
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Message 4222 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:53
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Ground Connect
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Back several years ago I put together one of Teslas' cosmic ray
collectors and simple escapement motors and it worked just as R. A.
Ford depicted in his book. The most interesting thing that I noticed
is that the capacitor connected to the elevated antenna or collector
accumulated a charge just the opposite that you would normally
assume,that is a negative charge. My thinking is that the capacitor was
actually being charge from the earth with the elevated antenna
providing an opposite charge sink on the other side of the capacitor
plates. Sort of like Tesla trying to tell us that the real power of
the Tesla coil operating at full resonance would be manifested in the
ground circuit of the coil with the elevated capacitance being merely a
sink for the oscillations to occur. Remember that Tesla said that for
a Tesla coil to do any worthwhile work that there should be no spark or
corona discharge at the upper terminal. If discharge did occur it is
merely a waste of energy. Norm
On 7/31/2018 6:22 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Doug
What is the cheapest, simplest, detector for peak voltage? With such a detector, the signal can then close a heavy duty switch. If it can chase the sine wave, where ever it goes, then you should be able to harvest the maximum energy. Detectors: we should make a list of every possible peak since wave detector, for consideration. Switches: relays, electronic, and mechanical methods of closing the circuit at the peak of the since wave, should be also listed. This energy works. We know it is there. It burns out brushes, and commutators, and heats up power tools. We also know we can bleed it off with diodes, to use in yet another motor, and actually see the voltage increase, from one motor to another, with permanent magnet DC motors. The beauty of a solid state transformer based device, is that there are no friction producing parts rubbing together, turning to powder as it runs. Cheers Warren
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 12:42 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Warren
Just my two pcents but the variables to create ferroresonance and also resonance let's say in Air coil too, seen to be frequency, capacitance and inductance....however perhaps there is the fourth dimension overlooked which is extraction of this energy, not just the observation or prediction of it or the cancelling or avoidance of it which usually seems to be the "scientific purpose".....
As Sven is doing with diode plug exprimemts too,, he is extracting it into a load ( and not direct lump resistance.load as is shown in figure drawings)
And so the distribution of the positive or negative energies in sinewave via running through diodes into what I call collector caps, .
and only the collector caps see or feel effects of resistive load (and only discharged to resistive load when isolated and independent and disconnected more or less from the system or circuit that filled these caps)
now this brings upon not only the fourth dimension of "means of extraction" from the "resonant collecting caps" but also there becomes the fifth dimension of time and timing of how long and when to fill and discharge the resonant collector caps
Also as caps fill over time, and when they discharge and refill they again change the ferroresonance or resonance "parameters" of primary system that fills caps.
My sick plan is to fuck it all, instead SHORT CICUIT inductorsvery briefly with switch at peak periods, this cause hypernringing within coil and gives you simulation of resonant condition since you have same effects you want in extraction and that is voltage increase into capacitors X 20 or X 50 in magnitude.
Also short can be applied to AC or DC impulse take your pick...with DC it is done just before saturation, with AC, at.voltage peak periods.
Kone
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