Re: Aw: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Low Lenz in plain sight

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Thanks NormGeorge

    On Saturday, 4 August 2018, 9:49:45 pm AEST, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

George! I lived in Europe for 4 years and we had single phase 220VAC.  Here in the US, in domestic applications. Delta-Y stepdown transformers (domestic consumption) we have 120VAC single phase (one leg and a neutral. Also single phase is two legs L-1 & L-2 = 220VAC (single phase) no neutral!   Although you are measuring between two of the 3 legs, it is still considered single phase power.  That is for a Y transformer for it has a common neutral point to all three legs.
 
 
 On 8/3/2018 10:27 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
      Norm, 
  Here in Australia when we say it is single phase, we mean it is one phase of the three phase 415 volt supply and the neutral and this gives us 240 volts.
  
  How do you get a single phase supply without a neutral over there? 
  George
  
  
  
      On Saturday, 4 August 2018, 9:34:57 am AEST, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
  
          
 
 
Mick!  I really do not understand what it is that you do not understand!   There have been two different scenarios with my bench top simulation of the Neutral Spike experiment where the effect was successfully created.  The last one was with a 5HP A/C compressor that uses both start and run capacitors  needed to create the effect. Go back and review the whole setup that I have posted to the group several times.  The iron motor frame was bonded to a 10 ft. ground stake (EARTH BOND).  The 230VAC supply to the motor was 2 ea. 8ga. conductors (L-1& L-2) with no neutral (single phase hook up). When an adjustable (locked rotor current  detector)  over current relay would drop out L-1 & L-2 supply to motor leaving it in an isolated condition since there was no neutral in schematic.  You have a magnetically saturated motor and charged capacitors that are separated from the earth bonded metal frame via the dielectric in the insulation involved. In both cases, I found that the isolation of charge (both magnetic flux and electric via capacitors (45mfd) created the EMP  (Neutral Spike when the stored energy was cancelled.   The very first encounter was with the little 1/6 HP fan motor that created the same effect as  the big experiment. That case there was a zip cord (3 ea. 18 ga. conductors)  L-1 ,a neutral and an earth green bonding wire involved.  Due to a Chinese worker miss wiring a double pole reversing switch which caused the  isolation of the run capacitor when the switch was in transition from forward run to reverse, the EMP shot was  created.  The whole thing is summed up with isolation of charge, both magnetic and electric charge!
 
 
  On 8/3/2018 10:07 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Can you define the neutral spike with and without the earth ground involved?
 
 On 7/31/2018 5:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Doug & Warren, I love your thinking process for designing a circuit (Ardino  ?)  that rapidly tracks the capacitance values needed to zero in on the targeted  frequency for hard ferroresonance.  Since solid state will not survive the environment, just use the  circuits to control hard tubes like the thyratron do do the heavy lifting.  Auto tracking circuits can be made to mitigate (avoid) the  ferroresonance phenomenon, therefore the same circuit can auto target the values needed  to capture the circuit parameters needed.  Just my two cents thrown in, soon we will have a whole $dollar!  Lol   PS: Doug, I like the Fuck it, just Short Circuit!   On my 5 HP compressor locked rotor experiment, I used a  simple overload relay which was set for drop out at locked rotor amps (82 amps) which  gave me the super saturation of the motor iron when the 2 pole single phase contactor (230 VAC) opened thus leaving the whole shebang in an  isolated condition (no ground reference). When the isolated energy (magnetic saturated iron and 45mfd caps) cancelled, I got the EMP shot  in the earth ground, Neutral Spike.   Your thinking is right on!   Norm
 
 
 On 7/31/2018 6:22 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    

 Doug 
 What is the cheapest, simplest, detector for peak voltage? With such a detector, the signal can then close a  heavy duty switch. If it can chase the sine wave, where ever it goes,  then you should be able to harvest the maximum energy. Detectors: we should make a list of every possible peak since  wave detector, for consideration. Switches: relays, electronic, and mechanical methods of  closing the circuit at the peak of the since wave, should be also listed. This energy works. We know it is there. It burns out  brushes, and commutators, and heats up power tools. We also know we can bleed it off with diodes, to use in  yet another motor, and actually see the voltage increase, from one motor  to another, with permanent magnet DC motors. The beauty of a solid state transformer based device,  is that there are no friction producing parts rubbing together, turning  to powder as it runs. Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 12:42 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 Just my two pcents but the variables to create ferroresonance  and also resonance let's say in Air coil too, seen to be frequency, capacitance and inductance....however perhaps there is the fourth  dimension overlooked which is extraction of this energy,  not just the observation or prediction of it or the cancelling or avoidance of  it which usually seems to be the "scientific purpose".....
 As Sven is doing with diode plug exprimemts too,, he is  extracting it into a load ( and not direct lump resistance.load as is shown in figure drawings)
 And so the distribution of the positive or negative  energies in sinewave via running through diodes into what I call collector caps, .
 and only the collector caps see or feel effects of resistive load  (and only discharged to resistive load when isolated and  independent and disconnected more or less from the system or  circuit that filled these caps)
 now this brings upon not only the fourth dimension of  "means of extraction" from the "resonant collecting caps" but also there becomes the fifth dimension of time and timing of how  long and when to fill and discharge the resonant collector caps
 Also as caps fill over time, and when they discharge and refill  they again change the ferroresonance or resonance "parameters"  of primary system that fills caps.
 My sick plan is to fuck it all, instead SHORT CICUIT inductorsvery  briefly with switch at peak periods, this cause hypernringing  within coil and gives you simulation of resonant condition since you have  same effects you want in extraction and that is voltage  increase into capacitors X 20 or X 50 in magnitude.
 Also short can be applied to AC or DC impulse take your  pick...with DC it is done just before saturation, with AC, at.voltage peak periods.
 Kone