Re: Aw: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Low Lenz in plain sight

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In addition to this is the Delta -Delta step down transformer that gives 
230VAC between legs for there is no common neutral from which to derive 
the 120VAC.    Industrial applications sometimes ground one of the Delta 
legs (secondary) to create a common from which to get 125VAC.  Very 
dangerous and is never used in domestic applications.


On 8/4/2018 6:50 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> "Yes"!   Ole thanks for the schematic to explain the Y transformer 
> common neutral!
>
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> On 8/4/2018 4:20 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Hi George,
>>
>> In the US the phases are split in two halves with a neutral in the 
>> center instead of using three phases.
>>
>> From Wikipedia:
>>
>>> Split-phase electric power 
>>> <https://wiki2.org/en/Split-phase_electric_power>
>>>
>>> A *split-phase* or *single-phase three-wire* system is a type of 
>>> single-phase <https://wiki2.org/en/Single-phase_electric_power> 
>>> electric power distribution. It is the AC 
>>> <https://wiki2.org/en/Alternating_current> equivalent of the 
>>> original Edison three-wire direct-current system.
>>> Fig. 1
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
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>> Norm,
>>
>> Here in Australia when we say it is single phase, we mean it is one 
>> phase of the three phase 415 volt supply and the neutral and this 
>> gives us 240 volts.
>>
>> How do you get a single phase supply without a neutral over there?
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Saturday, 4 August 2018, 9:34:57 am AEST, Norman Wootan
>>     nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>
>>
>>
>> Mick!  I really do not understand what it is that you do not 
>> understand!   There have been two different scenarios with my bench 
>> top simulation of the Neutral Spike experiment where the effect was 
>> successfully created.  The last one was with a 5HP A/C compressor 
>> that uses both start and run capacitors needed to create the effect. 
>> Go back and review the whole setup that I have posted to the group 
>> several times.  The iron motor frame was bonded to a 10 ft. ground 
>> stake (EARTH BOND).  The 230VAC supply to the motor was 2 ea. 8ga. 
>> conductors (L-1& L-2) with no neutral (single phase hook up). When an 
>> adjustable (locked rotor current detector)  over current relay would 
>> drop out L-1 & L-2 supply to motor leaving it in an isolated 
>> condition since there was no neutral in schematic. You have a 
>> magnetically saturated motor and charged capacitors that are 
>> separated from the earth bonded metal frame via the dielectric in the 
>> insulation involved. In both cases, I found that the isolation of 
>> charge (both magnetic flux and electric via capacitors (45mfd) 
>> created the EMP (Neutral Spike when the stored energy was 
>> cancelled.   The very first encounter was with the little 1/6 HP fan 
>> motor that created the same effect as the big experiment. That case 
>> there was a zip cord (3 ea. 18 ga. conductors)  L-1 ,a neutral and an 
>> earth green bonding wire involved.  Due to a Chinese worker miss 
>> wiring a double pole reversing switch which caused the isolation of 
>> the run capacitor when the switch was in transition from forward run 
>> to reverse, the EMP shot was created.  The whole thing is summed up 
>> with isolation of charge, both magnetic and electric charge!
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/2018 10:07 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Can you define the neutral spike with and without the earth ground 
>>> involved?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2018 5:40 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Doug & Warren, I love your thinking process for designing a circuit 
>>>> (Ardino ?)  that rapidly tracks the capacitance values needed to 
>>>> zero in on the targeted frequency for hard ferroresonance. Since 
>>>> solid state will not survive the environment, just use the circuits 
>>>> to control hard tubes like the thyratron do do the heavy lifting.  
>>>> Auto tracking circuits can be made to mitigate (avoid) the 
>>>> ferroresonance phenomenon, therefore the same circuit can auto 
>>>> target the values needed to capture the circuit parameters needed.  
>>>> Just my two cents thrown in, soon we will have a whole $dollar!  
>>>> Lol   PS: Doug, I like the Fuck it, just Short Circuit!   On my 5 
>>>> HP compressor locked rotor experiment, I used a simple overload 
>>>> relay which was set for drop out at locked rotor amps (82 amps) 
>>>> which gave me the super saturation of the motor iron when the 2 
>>>> pole single phase contactor (230 VAC) opened thus leaving the whole 
>>>> shebang in an isolated condition (no ground reference). When the 
>>>> isolated energy (magnetic saturated iron and 45mfd caps) cancelled, 
>>>> I got the EMP shot in the earth ground, Neutral Spike. Your 
>>>> thinking is right on!   Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/2018 6:22 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... 
>>>> <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the cheapest, simplest, detector for peak voltage?
>>>>> With such a detector, the signal can then close a heavy duty switch.
>>>>> If it can chase the sine wave, where ever it goes, then you should 
>>>>> be able to harvest the maximum energy.
>>>>> Detectors: we should make a list of every possible peak since wave 
>>>>> detector, for consideration.
>>>>> Switches: relays, electronic, and mechanical methods of closing 
>>>>> the circuit at the peak of the since wave, should be also listed.
>>>>> This energy works. We know it is there. It burns out brushes, and 
>>>>> commutators, and heats up power tools.
>>>>> We also know we can bleed it off with diodes, to use in yet 
>>>>> another motor, and actually see the voltage increase, from one 
>>>>> motor to another, with permanent magnet DC motors.
>>>>> The beauty of a solid state transformer based device, is that 
>>>>> there are no friction producing parts rubbing together, turning to 
>>>>> powder as it runs.
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>>>>>
>>>>>     On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 12:42 AM, konehead@...
>>>>>     <mailto:konehead@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Warren
>>>>>     Just my two pcents but the variables to create ferroresonance
>>>>>     and also resonance let's say in Air coil too, seen to be
>>>>>     frequency, capacitance and inductance....however perhaps there
>>>>>     is the fourth dimension overlooked which is extraction of this
>>>>>     energy, not just the observation or prediction of it or the
>>>>>     cancelling or avoidance of it which usually seems to be the
>>>>>     "scientific purpose".....
>>>>>     As Sven is doing with diode plug exprimemts too,, he is
>>>>>     extracting it into a load ( and not direct lump
>>>>>     resistance.load as is shown in figure drawings)
>>>>>     And so the distribution of the positive or negative energies
>>>>>     in sinewave via running through diodes into what I call
>>>>>     collector caps, .
>>>>>     and only the collector caps see or feel effects of resistive
>>>>>     load (and only discharged to resistive load when isolated and
>>>>>     independent and disconnected more or less from the system or
>>>>>     circuit that filled these caps)
>>>>>     now this brings upon not only the fourth dimension of "means
>>>>>     of extraction" from the "resonant collecting caps" but also
>>>>>     there becomes the fifth dimension of time and timing of how
>>>>>     long and when to fill and discharge the resonant collector caps
>>>>>     Also as caps fill over time, and when they discharge and
>>>>>     refill they again change the ferroresonance or resonance
>>>>>     "parameters" of primary system that fills caps.
>>>>>     My sick plan is to fuck it all, instead SHORT CICUIT
>>>>>     inductorsvery briefly with switch at peak periods, this cause
>>>>>     hypernringing within coil and gives you simulation of resonant
>>>>>     condition since you have same effects you want in extraction
>>>>>     and that is voltage increase into capacitors X 20 or X 50 in
>>>>>     magnitude.
>>>>>     Also short can be applied to AC or DC impulse take your
>>>>>     pick...with DC it is done just before saturation, with AC,
>>>>>     at.voltage peak periods.
>>>>>     Kone
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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