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Based on oxidation states and reactivity would make a good battery.


On 7/24/2018 4:21 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium
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> https://archive.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/web/pdf/barium.pdf
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> 8
> Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia of Chemical Technology. Volume 3, 4th
> edition, 1992, p. 919.
> 9
> Ibid.
> 10
> Ibid.
> 11
> http://www.bariumchemicals.com/barium.htm
> Inorganic Listing Determination
> Barium Carbonate
> Listing Background Document
> August 2000
> 3
> suspension.
> 8
> When barium carbonate reacts with iron oxide in the presence of heat,
> barium ferrites form.
> Magnetically aligned barium ferrite can be pressed and sintered into a
> magnet for use in small motors or
> incorporated into plastic strips for use in appliances as a closure
> mechanism.
> 9
> Barium carbonate also reacts with titanium to form barium titanate, a
> ferroelectric material with
> a high dielectric constant. Barium titanate is most commonly used in
> transducers for ultrasonic technical
> devices used to emulsify liquids, mix powders or paint, and homogenize
> milk. It is also used in sonar
> equipment. In addition, barium carbonate is used in photographic paper
> manufacturing. The chemical
> is used to produce the barium sulfate which gives the photographic
> paper its flat white appearance.
> Lastly, barium carbonate has been used as a brine purification
> chemical in the chlor-alkali industry
> 10
> and
> as an ingredient in rat poisons, enamels, rubber and
>
> You can readily see why I formulated a Barium Titanate Ferrite magnet
> to get the piezoelectric component in its output!
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 5:29 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Norm,
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>> I have a source for the barium ferrite 5 and 8.  The BF is much more
>> of an insulator than the SF.  BF does not show on an ohm meter and
>> with very high voltage can barely get any spark.  Strontium on the
>> other hand does show resistance on a meter and carries HV very well.
>>
>> So it seems to be a B field device with no induced E field which may
>> have a lot to do with some of it's abilities.
>>
>> Had no idea it was an EPA thing.  I know when one begins to condition
>> these things spooks appear.
>>
>>
>> On 7/23/2018 12:47 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>
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>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] The Energy in Negative charge (What is Heat?)
>>> Date: 	Mon, 23 Jul 2018 11:18:00 -0500
>>> From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
>>> To: 	Toby Grotz <[email protected]>, Bert Pool
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> CC: 	Bob Paddock <[email protected]>, joel mcclain
>>> <[email protected]>, Jon Gentry <[email protected]>, Lane
>>> Wootan <[email protected]>, Mbking42 <[email protected]>, Phil
>>> Rembold <[email protected]>, Jeane Manning <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/23/2018 11:08 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Toby! Back in the early 80s, I was designing some PM motors and
>>>> became friends with the Production Manager at General Magnetics
>>>> (Southland Corp) in Dallas for they manufactured speaker magnets of
>>>> all size and shapes. My frequent visits with him, I saw the mixing,
>>>> molding, firing and magnetizing of the then Barium Ferite magnets.
>>>> EPA mandated the end of the use of barium in the manufacturing
>>>> process with a strontium substitute. The barium magnets became
>>>> available from Brazil and China. Back when I visited with Don
>>>> Martin and got the dimensions of Sparky's magnets  I found them at
>>>> Edmund Scientific so bought the exact same Sweet magnets. I was
>>>> scrapping sown all the main frame  (IBM) computers in the DFW area
>>>> and  found that the early versions of the big hard drives had the
>>>> barium magnets which Joel and I used in the MRA (Mini Sweet).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The MRA magnets were barium ferrite taken from these linear servos
>>>> in the read write heads.
>>>>
>>>> After talking to Bearden regarding the conversion of cold
>>>> electrical output making a self runner (Sweet said not possible) I
>>>> realized that much more had to be learned about this aspect of
>>>> research. I know you were involved to some extent.
>>>>
>>>> See: Sweet attachments in his own words!
>>>>
>>>> Before I got all bogged down with  my Hydrogen Production Process
>>>> and building Proof of concept prototypes for GAZPROM, Russia, I had
>>>> formulated a real neat Barium, Titanium dioxide, Ferrite magnet to
>>>> be made by a Chinese vendor. I never got the prototype magnets built.
>>>> Over the years with contact with Gunderson, Sweet VTA Yahoo site, I
>>>> accumulated practically all there is to know about the Sweet
>>>> Project. I guess Bearden's Final, Final, Final Secret is still yet
>>>> to be realized!  Lol
>>>> Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/23/2018 8:15 AM, Toby Grotz wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of stuff here.  I have been busy so need to back and review all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did see a reference to barium ferrite.  Sparky sweet said the
>>>>> magnets he used had to be barium ferrite.  Most ceramic magnets of
>>>>> the size he was using are strontium ferrite.  To tell the
>>>>> difference I used, per his instructions, an ohm meter.  One
>>>>> conducts, the other doesn’t.  I forget which way it is.  Somewhere
>>>>> in my collection of boxes I think I have one of his magnets.  I’m
>>>>> still unpackingand organizing  after many, many moves so it will
>>>>> be awhile before I find it.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, attached is Sweet circuit and plot from a magnet he had used.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Toby
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2018, at 7:20 AM, Norman Wootan <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] The Energy in Negative charge (What is Heat?)
>>>>>> Date: 	Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:39:51 -0700
>>>>>> From: 	Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Reply-To: 	[email protected]
>>>>>> To: 	[email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting theory Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure you have thought far more about Hydrogen than most
>>>>>> other people, I read your patent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Protium and molecular, not sure where the electron difference is
>>>>>> but there seems to be the potential of a hole difference or at
>>>>>> least a neutron missing.  Very interesting what happens with a
>>>>>> Coleman battery in that it emits neutrons. As no one really seems
>>>>>> to know what a hole is, some say it's protons but I think proton
>>>>>> electricity is a different animal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tesla always said it was a gas and lighter than Hydrogen so maybe
>>>>>> the mono form is one of the light Aether gasses since it has no
>>>>>> neutron and would only need a proton to gather an electron.  If
>>>>>> it shows up from out of nowhere that is a key to dimensional tuning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's either coming from the (ZP) aether well or earth well so we
>>>>>> do agree on the origin. Also have a theory about rain forming in
>>>>>> a similar way.  When we have these weather systems starting on
>>>>>> the west cost and dumping billions of gallons all across the
>>>>>> country more than the clouds could ever hold.  As the high and
>>>>>> lower clouds commingle I thing they convert nitrogen to hydrogen
>>>>>> and oxygen. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think I have seen an influence machine work properly
>>>>>> without a ground connection so they are in fact pumps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK I have been wondering about all the todo of rectifying and
>>>>>> then fractioning the HV to a coil vs straight up static charge
>>>>>> from a serious influence machine for the neutral spike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Felici device sounds like something to build someday.  Also
>>>>>> interesting what NASA is doing with the helium to hold H in the
>>>>>> Protium state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Lyne had the monoatomic furnace which is a great idea too. 
>>>>>> I think there are some deep truths in William Lynes writings even
>>>>>> if some of the whys and wherefores may be misinterpreted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dielectric stress in piezo crytals is another field I intend to
>>>>>> pursue as far as attempting electrets and anisotropic alignments
>>>>>> and restructuring.   I think Barrium Ferrite might be
>>>>>> piezoelectric, don't recall right now, but either way it seems to
>>>>>> be a very good insulator and something that can fraction
>>>>>> electrons from the B field.  I imagine you played with this stuff
>>>>>> quite a bit during your MRA design and likely noticed some
>>>>>> interesting aspects of the material.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a guy who was using magnetic tape rings and tape heads
>>>>>> for a OU lenz free generator.   He had a single sine wave freq
>>>>>> and claimed he could loop generating electricity in this way as
>>>>>> the tape passing by the heads each putting out about 9 volts did
>>>>>> not seem to get loaded down.  Probably just another tuned high
>>>>>> impedance system.  Find it interesting as mag tape is mostly
>>>>>> barium ferrite particles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/2018 10:50 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember Mick, You have been saying Differential?  Well, here is
>>>>>>> what is happening which agrees with Hal Puthoff paper on the
>>>>>>> spontaneous formation of hydrogen from space background from
>>>>>>> free protons.  Please review Irving Langmuir
>>>>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Langmuir>  Atomic
>>>>>>> Hydrogen.  Here is my theory as to how the 3000watts of HVDC is
>>>>>>> created in a 30 atm. atmosphere of .9999 pure hydrogen gas. In
>>>>>>> the Lanfmuir torch a high voltage charge breaks the H2 bond
>>>>>>> creating monatomic hydrogen (atoms).  Same with the Felici
>>>>>>> Generator, the operating gas is Atomic Hydrogen. According to
>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff, if a hydrogen atom looses an electron it is
>>>>>>> immediately replenished by the Zero Point space background.  
>>>>>>> The Felici Generator is a zero Point Energy Generator or PUMP. 
>>>>>>> I had an interesting discussion with Ken (RIP) Shoulders at a
>>>>>>> New Energy Symposium in Denver. I asked him what type of power
>>>>>>> supply he used in charging his HVDC capacitor banks for the
>>>>>>> Charged Cluster experiments. His reply was an Electrostatic
>>>>>>> Influence Machine (Holtz Machine).  He  said that if you apply a
>>>>>>> potential of lets say 100,000 Volts across a capacitor it will
>>>>>>> charge because you have stressed the dielectric (dielectric
>>>>>>> displacement).   Interesting answer to say the least.  The
>>>>>>> charged capacitors will do work.  Same with the Felici Generator
>>>>>>> for the 3,000 watt output will do work  drawing the energy from
>>>>>>> the space background.   See!  Mick, I had to answer my own
>>>>>>> question for nobody thinks about the perplexing problems.  Ha!
>>>>>>> Ha!     Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja02208a003
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2018 11:13 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, well, well... certainly not from inside the device!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2018 8:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron /
>>>>>>>>> atom, where does the electrons come from in the Felici HV
>>>>>>>>> Electrostatic Generator??  I have issued this challenge before
>>>>>>>>> with no comments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Going back to a subject not fully understood.   What is
>>>>>>>>>> Heat?    Which has more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot
>>>>>>>>>> surface = holes due to missing electrons vs cold surface=
>>>>>>>>>> packing of electrons until all holes are filled (absolute
>>>>>>>>>> zero conditions) BTW, absolute zero conditions, there is no
>>>>>>>>>> Browning Motion for there are no holes for electrons to move
>>>>>>>>>> in the atomic lattice. See:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra
>>>>>>>>>> energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but
>>>>>>>>>> from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because
>>>>>>>>>> it requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return
>>>>>>>>>> strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is
>>>>>>>>>> no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so
>>>>>>>>>> no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
>>>>>>>>>> difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
>>>>>>>>>> oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the
>>>>>>>>>> proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is
>>>>>>>>>> a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to
>>>>>>>>>> fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he
>>>>>>>>>> referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also
>>>>>>>>>> contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just
>>>>>>>>>> like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the
>>>>>>>>>> proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>>>>>>> <http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you think about this for a moment, I believe you will
>>>>>>>>>> understand the concentration of negative charge (cold)
>>>>>>>>>> creating the huge amounts of ice & hail in the negative
>>>>>>>>>> thunderstorm. Moray is interested in the positive lighting
>>>>>>>>>> producing the sprite events over the storms as photographed
>>>>>>>>>> by the ISIS Space Station. (interaction of the Hot positive
>>>>>>>>>> charge with the Cold Negative ionosphere.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *What is Heat ?*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   By
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Norman L. Wootan*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Battle Creek Farms*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *22825 FM709N*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Hubbard, TX 76648*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *(214)907-0010
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[email protected]*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                      What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>> junction.  Historically we find that  German physicist,
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>>>> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>>>> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>>>> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>>>> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>>>> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>>>> question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school
>>>>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>>>> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>>>> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>>>> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>>>> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is
>>>>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>>>>>>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>>>> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>>>> of experimentation.   Norm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super
>>>>>>>>>> Conductivity" they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea
>>>>>>>>>> of using the Linde, liquid air process to provide a super
>>>>>>>>>> conductive Tesla Coil primary.   Tesla understood the power
>>>>>>>>>> of a "Cold Sink" with electron densities of a very high
>>>>>>>>>> order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>
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