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Smokey,
If there are no electrons, what do you attest to molecules in chemical
models that seem to work perfectly based on shell population? I am not
claiming there are electrons as you say no one has seen one but the
model does seem to work quite well for chemistry and defining the
isotope state of elements.
On 7/21/2018 6:59 PM, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>
> Hello Norman,
> Quote:
> "Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron / atom,
> where does the electrons come from in the Felici HV Electrostatic
> Generator?? I have issued this challenge before with no comments."
>
> We have to begin to accept the total facts that there are no such
> things as 'electrons' and they cannot exist as 'free electrons' in space.
> This theory comes from the likes of the darlings of the control and
> fantasy World of people like Einstein.
> The Electron Microscope is a joke and still today, nobody has seen an
> 'electron'.
>
> https://ia802502.us.archive.org/31/items/magnetism1small/magnetism1small.pdf
>
> See Page 20.
>
> https://ia800306.us.archive.org/31/items/dashedagainsttherock00colviala/dashedagainsttherock00colviala.pdf
>
> The attached extract pdf is from William J Colville and his Book
> 'Dashed Against The Rocks' 1894 and this is Chapter 4 and talks of the
> Ether or 'atomolic substance' and after a Gas he describes
> 'Ultra-Gaseous' which we, today, call a Plasma.
> Not a single mention of the fantasy word 'electron'.
>
> We need to begin to look at what is next to the Ether and after the
> Gas and that is a Plasma.
> What really is a Plasma?
> Plasma is excited Ether and what overunity is all about.
> You might have your fantasy 'electron' rotating inside the Atom but
> once excited and is in free space, becomes a part of the Plasma.
> Probably nothing to do with the Hydrogen as you are working inside a
> gas filled vacuum and the Ether just loves a vacuum.
> Nature abhors a vacuum and has to fill the space with something.
> Excited Ether you could probably call 'motivated Ether' ready and
> willing to do work.
>
> So then why do you build a Geometric Translator with Square Root 2
> rotating Cones (Flanagan/Constable) for rainmaking and you include
> Vacuum Tubes in the design? - to attract the Ether, that's why.
> The design is such that the unseen Ether is attracted to the device
> through excitation and in the generation of the Plasma you have and
> put Ions to work.
>
> My 'Impulse Discharge' device shows all of this at work where you have
> the Spark Gap but you have no arc/spark but an Ion induced Plasma
> instead at the gap which is really an excited Ether and this is all
> confirmed by Chernetsky/Galkin/Frolov in their 'Self Generating
> Discharge'.
> As I see it.
>
> Why is the USA re-opening their Colorado DUMB - because of the fear of
> an EMP wiping out all of their solid state electronics which the smart
> Russians have chosen not to do and still use Vacuum Tubes in their
> military designs as was demonstrated in the Black Sea with the USS
> Donald E Cook.
> Go back into the 60s and see what 'Operation Fishbowl' was really all
> about as a consequence.
>
> Hope I have made an attempt to answer your question suitably.
> Respectfully.
>
> Smokey
>
> On 21/07/2018 1:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
>>
>> Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron / atom,
>> where does the electrons come from in the Felici HV Electrostatic
>> Generator?? I have issued this challenge before with no comments.
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Going back to a subject not fully understood. What is Heat?
>>> Which has more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot surface = holes due
>>> to missing electrons vs cold surface= packing of electrons until all
>>> holes are filled (absolute zero conditions) BTW, absolute zero
>>> conditions, there is no Browning Motion for there are no holes for
>>> electrons to move in the atomic lattice. See:
>>>
>>> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
>>>
>>> Kone,
>>>
>>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not
>>> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral
>>> spike Norm is on to. It is elusive because it requires a solid
>>> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like
>>> lighting. With positive lightening there is no return strike. The
>>> return mucks up everything silicon so no wonder it has been
>>> completely engineered around. It's difficult to get solid negative
>>> with high voltage as the oscillations provide as you know the
>>> counter field so the proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't
>>> cut it but is a good start. This is why Tesla was using magnetic to
>>> fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred
>>> to as radiant. I am sure certain materials also contribute to a
>>> more pure charge one way or the other just like with static
>>> charges. We just have to learn to use the proper materials in our
>>> coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>
>>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>> <http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/>
>>>
>>> If you think about this for a moment, I believe you will understand
>>> the concentration of negative charge (cold) creating the huge
>>> amounts of ice & hail in the negative thunderstorm. Moray is
>>> interested in the positive lighting producing the sprite events over
>>> the storms as photographed by the ISIS Space Station. (interaction
>>> of the Hot positive charge with the Cold Negative ionosphere.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *What is Heat ?*
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> * *
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> What is Heat #2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon. The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials. My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices. Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction. Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted. Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold. It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed. These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials. In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles. In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship. The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas. With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed. Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage. About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS. My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction. This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants. We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change. Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect. Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles. After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical. The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases. More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained. When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science. Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of, What is heat? We were told in the school
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy. What is the form of this energy? Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process. When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot. The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes. Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold. Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material. When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions). Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works. All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught. Everything in chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects. Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged. This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved. It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials. Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device. I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation. Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity"
>>> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde,
>>> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil
>>> primary. Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron
>>> densities of a very high order! "Hmmmmn"!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
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