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On 7/22/2018 6:53 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonthermal_plasma Tesla made these UV
> plasma lamps and were sold by of all stores ,Sears Roebuck back in the
> 20s & 30s as a medical treatment device. They pop up in antique stores
> quite often. (Cold Plasma)
>
>
> Aerospace
>
> Main article: Magnetohydrodynamic converter
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_converter>
> See also: Paschen's law <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen%27s_law>
>
> Aerodynamic <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamics> active flow
> control <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_control_%28fluid%29>
> solutions involving technological nonthermal weakly ionized plasmas
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29#Fully_vs._partially_%28weakly%29_ionized_gases>
> for subsonic
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamics#Subsonic_flow>, supersonic
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_speed> and hypersonic
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_speed> flight
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight> are being studied, as plasma
> actuators <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_actuator> in the field
> of electrohydrodynamics
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrohydrodynamics>, and as
> magnetohydrodynamic converters
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_converter> when
> magnetic fields are also involved.^[19]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonthermal_plasma#cite_note-Weier-Shatrov-Gerbeth-19>
>
>
> Studies conducted in wind tunnels
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_tunnel> involve most of the time
> low atmospheric pressure
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure> similar to an
> altitude <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude> of 20–50 km, typical
> of hypersonic flight
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_flight>, where the
> electrical conductivity of air is higher, hence non-thermal weakly
> ionized plasmas can be easily produced with a fewer energy expense.
> Think of the implications here! Norm
>
>
> On 7/22/2018 6:38 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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>> Sorry! I hit send and was not finished with my response. (cont)
>>
>> If you will take the time to read this book by Davson (The only
>> writing about the work of Karl Schappeller BTW) it will open your
>> thought process as to how the sun really works. The Schappeller
>> engine is rather fascinating. See:
>>
>> http://www.ebook3000.com/The-Physics-of-The-Primary-State-of-Matter--An-Application-Through-The-Primary-Technique_89229.html
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/schapp/schapp.htm
>>
>> http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf
>>
>> Smokey! Since you brought up the other possible elements before
>> hydrogen in the periodic table, best to review the work of Walter
>> Russell's Octave based table of the elements. I bought the entire
>> study course from the Institute and thoroughly studied the subject.
>> The old saying applies, We do not know all that we do not know!
>> Enough said. I have to kind of stick to conventional physics and
>> electronic theory on here for we have so many dyed in the wood
>> traditionalist , that we draw the ire of same when we venture into
>> our real beliefs. Toby is on here and can attest to the focusing
>> dynamo experiments as drawn by Walter Russell. See:
>>
>> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/567242515548916992/?lp=true
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2018 6:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks You!!!! Smokey for opening the door to my very favorite
>>> subject! The energetic vacuum, a seathing sea of aetheric energy.
>>> Way back in the 80s, Tom Bearden put me onto the book, The Physics
>>> of the Primary State of Matter, Davson 1955 which was in a book
>>> store in Boston. I purchased the very rare (autographed copy) for
>>> $450 and treasure the contents for it goes right to the heart of
>>> what you are saying. If you were able to pull down a perfect vacuum
>>> in a vessile you would have a concentration of energetic aether.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/2018 8:59 PM, David G Dawson [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Norman,
>>>> Quote:
>>>> "Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron / atom,
>>>> where does the electrons come from in the Felici HV Electrostatic
>>>> Generator?? I have issued this challenge before with no comments."
>>>>
>>>> We have to begin to accept the total facts that there are no such
>>>> things as 'electrons' and they cannot exist as 'free electrons' in
>>>> space.
>>>> This theory comes from the likes of the darlings of the control and
>>>> fantasy World of people like Einstein.
>>>> The Electron Microscope is a joke and still today, nobody has seen
>>>> an 'electron'.
>>>>
>>>> https://ia802502.us.archive.org/31/items/magnetism1small/magnetism1small.pdf
>>>>
>>>> See Page 20.
>>>>
>>>> https://ia800306.us.archive.org/31/items/dashedagainsttherock00colviala/dashedagainsttherock00colviala.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The attached extract pdf is from William J Colville and his Book
>>>> 'Dashed Against The Rocks' 1894 and this is Chapter 4 and talks of
>>>> the Ether or 'atomolic substance' and after a Gas he describes
>>>> 'Ultra-Gaseous' which we, today, call a Plasma.
>>>> Not a single mention of the fantasy word 'electron'.
>>>>
>>>> We need to begin to look at what is next to the Ether and after the
>>>> Gas and that is a Plasma.
>>>> What really is a Plasma?
>>>> Plasma is excited Ether and what overunity is all about.
>>>> You might have your fantasy 'electron' rotating inside the Atom but
>>>> once excited and is in free space, becomes a part of the Plasma.
>>>> Probably nothing to do with the Hydrogen as you are working inside
>>>> a gas filled vacuum and the Ether just loves a vacuum.
>>>> Nature abhors a vacuum and has to fill the space with something.
>>>> Excited Ether you could probably call 'motivated Ether' ready and
>>>> willing to do work.
>>>>
>>>> So then why do you build a Geometric Translator with Square Root 2
>>>> rotating Cones (Flanagan/Constable) for rainmaking and you include
>>>> Vacuum Tubes in the design? - to attract the Ether, that's why.
>>>> The design is such that the unseen Ether is attracted to the device
>>>> through excitation and in the generation of the Plasma you have and
>>>> put Ions to work.
>>>>
>>>> My 'Impulse Discharge' device shows all of this at work where you
>>>> have the Spark Gap but you have no arc/spark but an Ion induced
>>>> Plasma instead at the gap which is really an excited Ether and this
>>>> is all confirmed by Chernetsky/Galkin/Frolov in their 'Self
>>>> Generating Discharge'.
>>>> As I see it.
>>>>
>>>> Why is the USA re-opening their Colorado DUMB - because of the fear
>>>> of an EMP wiping out all of their solid state electronics which the
>>>> smart Russians have chosen not to do and still use Vacuum Tubes in
>>>> their military designs as was demonstrated in the Black Sea with
>>>> the USS Donald E Cook.
>>>> Go back into the 60s and see what 'Operation Fishbowl' was really
>>>> all about as a consequence.
>>>>
>>>> Hope I have made an attempt to answer your question suitably.
>>>> Respectfully.
>>>>
>>>> Smokey
>>>>
>>>> On 21/07/2018 1:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of Hydrogen, gas with one proton and one electron / atom,
>>>>> where does the electrons come from in the Felici HV Electrostatic
>>>>> Generator?? I have issued this challenge before with no comments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/20/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going back to a subject not fully understood. What is Heat?
>>>>>> Which has more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot surface = holes
>>>>>> due to missing electrons vs cold surface= packing of electrons
>>>>>> until all holes are filled (absolute zero conditions) BTW,
>>>>>> absolute zero conditions, there is no Browning Motion for there
>>>>>> are no holes for electrons to move in the atomic lattice. See:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy
>>>>>> not just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the
>>>>>> neutral spike Norm is on to. It is elusive because it requires a
>>>>>> solid negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like
>>>>>> lighting. With positive lightening there is no return strike.
>>>>>> The return mucks up everything silicon so no wonder it has been
>>>>>> completely engineered around. It's difficult to get solid
>>>>>> negative with high voltage as the oscillations provide as you
>>>>>> know the counter field so the proper neg polarity to input of a
>>>>>> coil doesn't cut it but is a good start. This is why Tesla was
>>>>>> using magnetic to fraction out the negative traveling wave which
>>>>>> is what he referred to as radiant. I am sure certain materials
>>>>>> also contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just
>>>>>> like with static charges. We just have to learn to use the
>>>>>> proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>>> <http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think about this for a moment, I believe you will
>>>>>> understand the concentration of negative charge (cold) creating
>>>>>> the huge amounts of ice & hail in the negative thunderstorm.
>>>>>> Moray is interested in the positive lighting producing the sprite
>>>>>> events over the storms as photographed by the ISIS Space Station.
>>>>>> (interaction of the Hot positive charge with the Cold Negative
>>>>>> ionosphere.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *What is Heat ?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Norman L. Wootan*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *[email protected]*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>
>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>
>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>
>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>
>>>>>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>
>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super
>>>>>> Conductivity" they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of
>>>>>> using the Linde, liquid air process to provide a super conductive
>>>>>> Tesla Coil primary. Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink"
>>>>>> with electron densities of a very high order! "Hmmmmn"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>
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