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On 7/20/2018 10:00 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norm,
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> Usable energy is always a differential so when you say which has more
> energy this can be a counter intuitive question. If energy is the
> capacity to perform work then I will go the cold route because it can
> warm much faster than the warm can cool.
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> On 7/20/2018 7:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Going back to a subject not fully understood. What is Heat?
>> Which has more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot surface = holes due to
>> missing electrons vs cold surface= packing of electrons until all
>> holes are filled (absolute zero conditions) BTW, absolute zero
>> conditions, there is no Browning Motion for there are no holes for
>> electrons to move in the atomic lattice. See:
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>> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
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>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
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>> Kone,
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>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not
>> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral
>> spike Norm is on to. It is elusive because it requires a solid
>> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like lighting.
>> With positive lightening there is no return strike. The return mucks
>> up everything silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered
>> around. It's difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as
>> the oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the proper
>> neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.
>> This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction out the negative
>> traveling wave which is what he referred to as radiant. I am sure
>> certain materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or
>> the other just like with static charges. We just have to learn to
>> use the proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
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>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>> <http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/>
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>> If you think about this for a moment, I believe you will understand
>> the concentration of negative charge (cold) creating the huge amounts
>> of ice & hail in the negative thunderstorm. Moray is interested in
>> the positive lighting producing the sprite events over the storms as
>> photographed by the ISIS Space Station. (interaction of the Hot
>> positive charge with the Cold Negative ionosphere.)
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>> *What is Heat ?*
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>> By
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>> *Norman L. Wootan*
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>> *[email protected]*
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>> What is Heat #2
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>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
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>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
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>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
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>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
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>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
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>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
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>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
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>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
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>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
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>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
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>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
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>> junction.Historically we find thatGerman physicist,
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>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
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>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
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>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
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>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
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>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
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>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
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>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
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>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
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>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
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>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
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>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
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>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
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>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
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>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
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>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
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>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
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>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
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>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
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>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
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>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
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>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
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>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
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>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
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>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
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>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
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>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
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>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
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>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
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>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
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>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
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>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
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>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
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>> reversible situation based on polarity.
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>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
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>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
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>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
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>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
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>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
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>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
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>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
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>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
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>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
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>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
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>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
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>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
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>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
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>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
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>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
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>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
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>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
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>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
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>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
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>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
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>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
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>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
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>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
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>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
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>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
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>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
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>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
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>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
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>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
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>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
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>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
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>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
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>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
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>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
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>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
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>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
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>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
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>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
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>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
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>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
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>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
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>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
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>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
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>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
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>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
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>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
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>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
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>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
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>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
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>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
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>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
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>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
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>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
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>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
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>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
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>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
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>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
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>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
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>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
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>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
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>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
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>> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
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>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
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>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
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>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
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>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
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>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
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>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
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>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
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>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
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>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
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>> of experimentation.Norm
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>> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity"
>> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde,
>> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil
>> primary. Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron
>> densities of a very high order! "Hmmmmn"!
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