Re: [EVGRAY] The Energy in Negative charge (What is Heat?)

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Norm,

Usable energy is always a differential so when you say which has more
energy this can be a counter intuitive question.  If energy is the
capacity to perform work then I will go the cold route because it can
warm much faster than the warm can cool.


On 7/20/2018 7:37 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
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> Going back to a subject not fully understood.   What is Heat?    Which
> has more energy, Holes or Electrons? Hot surface = holes due to
> missing electrons vs cold surface= packing of electrons until all
> holes are filled (absolute zero conditions) BTW, absolute zero
> conditions, there is no Browning Motion for there are no holes for
> electrons to move in the atomic lattice. See:
>
> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/199606/achieve.cfm
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> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
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> Kone,
>
> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not
> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral
> spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid
> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like lighting. 
> With positive lightening there is no return strike.  The return mucks
> up everything silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered
> around.  It's difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
> oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the proper neg
> polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.  This
> is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction out the negative traveling
> wave which is what he referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain
> materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other
> just like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the
> proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>
> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
> <http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/>
>
> If you think about this for a moment, I believe you will understand
> the concentration of negative charge (cold) creating the huge amounts
> of ice & hail in the negative thunderstorm. Moray is interested in the
> positive lighting producing the sprite events over the storms as
> photographed by the ISIS Space Station. (interaction of the Hot
> positive charge with the Cold Negative ionosphere.)
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> *What is Heat ?*
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> * *
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>   By
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> * *
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> *Norman L. Wootan*
>
> *Battle Creek Farms*
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> *22825 FM709N*
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> *Hubbard, TX 76648*
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> *(214)907-0010
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> *[email protected]*
>
>                      What is Heat #2
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>  
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> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
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> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
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> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
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> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>
> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
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> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
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> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
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> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
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> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>
> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
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> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
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> junction.  Historically we find that  German physicist,
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> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
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> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
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> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
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> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
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> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
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> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
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> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
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> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
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> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
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> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
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> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
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> materials which could provide the wide temperature
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> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
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> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
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> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
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> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
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> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
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> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
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> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
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> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
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> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
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> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
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> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
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> small temperature differential across the device a weak
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> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
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> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
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> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
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> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
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> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
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> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
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> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
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> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
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> reversible situation based on polarity.
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> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
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> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
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> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
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> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
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> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
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> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
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> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
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> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
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> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
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> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
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> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
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> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
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> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
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> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
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> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
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> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
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> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
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> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
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> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
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> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
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> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
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> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
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> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
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> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
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> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
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> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
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> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
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> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
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> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
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> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
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> question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school
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> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
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> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
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> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
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> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
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> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
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> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
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> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
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> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
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> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
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> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
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> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
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> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
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> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
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> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
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> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
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> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
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> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
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> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
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> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
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> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
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> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
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> processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is
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> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
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> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>
> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
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> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
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> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
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> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
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> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
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> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
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> very efficient method of air conditioning because an ion
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> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
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> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
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> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
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> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
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> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
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> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
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> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
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> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>
> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>
> of experimentation.   Norm
>
>
> BTW, when the Patent Office started researching "Super Conductivity"
> they ran right into Tesla's work with the idea of using the Linde,
> liquid air process to provide a super conductive Tesla Coil primary.  
> Tesla understood the power of a "Cold Sink" with electron densities of
> a very high order!   "Hmmmmn"!
>
>  
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