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NormanYou have written the best essay on this subject I have ever read.What an interesting concept, well researched.By carefully stating the subject, you also leave the door open to further research on a collective basis, for a group effort to build practical applications.This paper deserves recognition in a serious scientific journal.Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 at 8:56 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Try this one:
 

 
 

                     What is Heat #3
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
 
heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
 
liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
 
electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
 
interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
 
from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
 
line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
 
with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
 
electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
 
people do not understand how these devices move thermal
 
energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
 
junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
 
Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
 
applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
 
electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
 
discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
 
Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
 
Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
 
Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
 
Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
 
Melted when the polarity of the direct current was
 
Reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
 
Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
 
Materials which could provide the wide temperature
 
Differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
 
Available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
 
The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
 
Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
 
Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
 
Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
 
Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
 
Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
 
Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
 
Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
 
ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
 
small temperature differential across the device a weak
 
current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
 
the differential provided a proportional increase in current
 
and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
 
wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
 
the Keely Net BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
 
how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
 
junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
 
thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
 
reversible situation based on polarity.
 
Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
 
refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
 
change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
 
always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
 
cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
 
mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
 
condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would 

you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
 
provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
 
Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
 
escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
 
of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
 
Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
 
the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
 
passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
 
Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
 
phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
 
not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
 
gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
 
discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
 
transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
 
the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
 
text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
 
explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
 
Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
 
Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
 
of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
 
totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
 
were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
 
electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
 
question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school 
 
that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
 
of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
 
a very simple example of heating which may explain this
 
process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
 
heated because electrons in the material are converted to
 
photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
 
leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
 
more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.  Now
 
the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
 
from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
 
net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
 
ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
 
(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
 
which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
 
structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
 
Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
 
across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
 
(ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
 
absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
 
how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
 
same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
 
processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is
 
an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
 
based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
 
At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
 
we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
 
which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
 
cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
 
negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
 
cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
 
very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
 generator operates at very high voltages with very little 
 

current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
 
transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
 
output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
 
that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
 
differential will cause a development of current and voltage
 
as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
 
provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.
 
Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
 
of experimentation.   Norm
 
 
 
 On 7/7/2018 5:38 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norm, 
 
 Part of your heat treatise was evaporated by yahoo, feel free to send to my email, very interesting topic that bummed me out when I hit "Would" and nothing further! 
  In respect to my wireless energy experiment I have found PNP to be superior to NPN, maybe they shut off faster being always on or maybe the end result is more hole ish. 
  
  
  
  
    
 
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