Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] General info!

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Mick!  A lot to cover here.   How about starting off with reading an 
article I wrote back in about 1996 regarding our understanding of HEAT.

What is Heat #3

For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of

heating and cooling associated with the phase change of

liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of

electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this

interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted

from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My

line of thinking really took off back when I experimented

with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in

electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most

people do not understand how these devices move thermal

energy through a current flow across a semiconductor

junction.Historically we find that German physicist,

Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was

applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that

electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier

discovered that when a direct current was applied to two

Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not

Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of

Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of

Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then

Melted when the polarity of the direct current was

Reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100

Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor

Materials which could provide the wide temperature

Differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became

Available which revived the electric cooling principles.In

The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling

Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a

Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced

Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore

Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical

Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high

Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first

Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years

ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a

small temperature differential across the device a weak

current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing

the differential provided a proportional increase in current

and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the

wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on

the Keely Net BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of

how electron flow could move thermal energy across the

junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving

thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly

reversible situation based on polarity.

Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in

refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase

change material such as water and refrigerants.We have

always been led to believe that evaporating water provided

cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same

mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the

condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would

you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change

provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840

Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on

escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one

of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.

Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with

the electrical output resulting from the steam friction

passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)

Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the

phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and

not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or

gain electrons in the process which accounts for the

discrepancy in the energy equation when a material

transitions between phases.More energy is present after

the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The

text book stated that this phenomenon could not be

explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by

Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a

Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change

of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is

totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions

were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an

electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental

question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool

that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence

of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at

a very simple example of heating which may explain this

process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is

heated because electrons in the material are converted to

photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light

leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The

more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.Now

the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water

from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a

net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the

ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame

(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons

which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic

structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.

Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current

across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy

(ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or

absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to

how the process works.All phase change processes work the

same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical

processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is

an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level

based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.

At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago

we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in

which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the

cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on

negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly

cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a

very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion

generator operates at very high voltages with very little

current involved.It is possible to develop this ion

transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical

output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember

that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal

differential will cause a development of current and voltage

as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will

provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.

Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line

of experimentation.Norm




On 7/7/2018 11:55 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> Thanks that was very enlightening specially the X-ray transformer as I 
> forgot about those rectifiers.   Have been having issues of diode 
> switching on one wire systems due to lack of current, lack of load on 
> the output, to overcome the junction cut in voltage or just burning up 
> RF diodes. Could be some Germanium power diodes are also in order to 
> be checked with the lower cut in voltage.
>
> For what it's worth I have many projects I work with so try to slim 
> down the amount of information to grind through in order to move 
> further along via the people before me who have made great strides 
> such as yourself.  I apologize if my questions seem repetitive or 
> lacking in foundation.
>
> I suppose you did not test much with a positive bias in order to 
> prevent the x-rays.
> it would be interesting to know the differences of the same 
> magnetically fractioned positive and negative.
>
> You might be surprised with what is becoming hard to find along with 
> ion wind. It is a sad state of affairs when knowledge is restricted by 
> the few.
>
> I think this may have serious karmic implications such as human 
> ascension being hindered.
>
> We have many fires now around here. I have read the patents on the ion 
> firefighting but have no idea of the effectiveness.  What did you find 
> with your barrier experiments?  Do you think with some helicopters 
> dropping battery powered charged meshes a serious fire could be 
> redirected or even attenuated?
>
> We had so much smoke two years ago I setup a cloudbuster but found 
> more than the water setting up a charge on the tubes accomplished more 
> activity vis a vis removing the smoke locally.  What was fascinating 
> is with a very small ion supply which was just a switching rectified 
> neon type supply only about 3 or 4kv would cause atmospheric changes 
> in mere minutes which was easy to see from the smoke. Negative charge 
> would suck the smoke down and a positive push it away. Did not have 
> any luck bringing big rain but I am convinced the more experienced 
> such as Smokey would have no problem with the rain part.  Actually the 
> negative may be the rain maker but it was hard to stomach with all the 
> smoke.  Fires really affect the weather system so attempting the same 
> without the fires may show better efficacy concerning rain.  In nature 
> it would seem finesse wins over force so perhaps a good number of low 
> powered meshes would work wonders as the earth could magnify the 
> effects if the meshes were setup along the proper magnetic borders of 
> high differential.
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> Mick!  My problem here is that we have discussed this subject many 
> times and everyone just goes back to the same old projects and do 
> nothing with the information given.  To each his own so to speak.  
> Electronics 101.  Tesla Fire, you want to generate a negative plasma 
> at very high voltage via a magnetic spark gap yielding unidirectional 
> DC pulse train with the Tesla recommended rest state of .0062 
> millisecond between pulses, longitudinal pulses. I had two setups that 
> I used. First was a X-ray oil filled tank power supply, of Israel 
> manufacture which had a tank top that was easily removed to get to the 
> guts. I reversed the full wave bridge (60KV) to give me a negative 
> output at the normal + anode terminal. Positive side of bridge was 
> grounded which gave me the 60KVDC output for negative ion wind 
> generator. I also used this power supply for negative ion heat barrier 
> experiments.  The other setup was a 12KV potential transformer and 
> full wave bridge to give me the HVDC potential I needed.  Very high 
> voltage negative discharges yield beautiful plasma. I used a 
> mechanical relay (solid state devices cannot survive here) to gate the 
> high voltage DC pulses through the powerful horn spark gal which 
> insured a pure unidirectional longitudinal pulse train with the rest 
> period specified between pulses.   I find it very interesting that 
> experiments with negative ion wind have all but disappeared from the 
> internet. The POWERS TO BE know that negative ionization leads to such 
> thing as COUNTERBARRY (anti-gravity) and cooling. Tom Bearden told me 
> a lone time ago back in the early 80s not to even mention this subject 
> cause you will end up a DEAD DUCK.  Build your own experimental 
> circuit from this article. I had cases of brand new flyback 
> transformers that I got through salvage. Circuit is duck soup simple.  
> I have an ion wind generator running constantly in my home.
>
> https://fear-of-lightning.wonderhowto.com/how-to/high-voltage-happiness-make-negative-ion-generator-0133359/
> https://www.circuitlib.com/index.php/schematics/product/52-negative-ion-generator/category_pathway-33
> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Negative-Ion-air-ionizer/
> Have fun!    Norm
>
> On 7/7/2018 12:12 AM, mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     With all due respect I grasp the magnetic diode concept quite
>>     well, this was not the question.
>>     The question was could you elaborate on your setup, this was all,
>>     no need for going on the offensive.
>
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