Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity.

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Hi Norman,

"...and answer my question as to where the electrons are coming from."
That was the same question Ivor Catt had. After 40 years he found out that the electrons came from the conductors. Electrical conductors are conductors because they have high mobility of electrons inside them. Catt wondered about where the electrons in the return wire of a transmission line came from as they didn't move fast enough to come from the voltage source at the opposite end of the transmission line. Catt worked with the very fast emitter coupled logic where it was a problem to send a signal across a circuit board perhaps half a meter (half a yard) across. Electronics was big size back then before microprocessors. The solution is using decoupling capacitors as energy reservoirs close to all switches (transistors). Read about the background of the Wakefield experiments below to see that the school book explanation of capacitors is wrong. Capacitors are better described by using transmission line theory. Catt's theory tells like the theory of W.B. Smith that electrons cannot be stopped. If stopping the electrons they die just like smoke rings die if they're stopped. The fields have to be kept at the same size to keep the ring phase locked. Thus stopping a smoke ring or an electron from moving forward destroys them.

The energy is moving as three fields at right angle to each other. The fields are the Tempic (field of change) Electric and Magnetic fields. When the fields are of equal size they can interlock like a smoke ring and become the fundamental particles known as the electron and the positron according to W.B. Smith. A smoke ring can have right or left hand spin and right or left hand precession. This becomes the electron or positron which each can have up or down spin. According to W.B. Smith all physical matter is made up of electrons or positrons. Study the Rhythmodynamics theory to see how it is done.

Some people claiming contact with extraterrestrial people even claims that by studying electrons it can be told from which generator the electrons originated. This would be similar to making vortexes in water and being able to see exactly what made them and where. Perhaps electrons have different sizes and spin ratios just like smoke rings?!

"The Wakefield Experiments Background and Motivation:" http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/ http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/

"Experiment to complement the Wakefield Experiment. Suggested by 4 students at Newcastle University UK:" http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x3a922.pdf http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x3a922.pdf

Regards
Ole


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 Please read the details regarding this fantastic electrostatic generator and answer my question as to where the electrons are coming from.  In high school science, we were told that influence machines or electrostatic generators sheared electrons from the air dielectric surrounding the device.  Sounds reasonable! As I studied the various Influence machine designs and built many of them, I was fascinated with Felici and his machines because they posed a problem with the accepted idea of electron source.   Since the Felici machine runs in a sealed environment of .999 pure hydrogen gas at an elevated pressure of 25 atmospheres (350 PSI) and considering the fact that hydrogen atom has one electron and one proton, it follows to ask the question as to where the electrons are coming from to yield the HARD electrical output at such high voltages and unusual currents for an influence machine.
 
 Cylinder size ( mm) 140 140 140 240 240 300 300 Available approx. power 300 W 400 W 385 W 2 kW 2 kW 2.5 kW 2.5 kW Number of poles 2 4 6 4 8 2 4 Max. voltage ( kV) 300 160 110 250 140 600 300 Max. current ( mA) 1 
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 Hal Puthoff published a paper for the Scientific Journals Spontaneaus Hydrogen from the space background.  When you steal electrons from a hydrogen gas you are left with a proton rich field which sucks in electrons from the space background to reconstitute the hydrogen atoms.  So in effect you have a 2.5KW electrostatic generator doing exactly what you have been looking for.  I'll take 300KVDC at 8 mA (2.5KW) hard DC power any day!  Thoughts please!  Norm
 On 4/26/2018 7:06 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   shit, fuck, dick, cunt, prick ! ( to make it pass the sensor bots ) 
 
 going back to electrets , avoid plastics having titanium dioxide (anti-static compound) unit can be heated to near melt and be permanently charged ! 
 
 reread all on electrets !  and on testatica  ( testakrica ) 
 
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 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... wrote :
 
 Norman Do tey ordinary kitchen foil and 6 or 10 mil polyethylene plastic sheet.
 The polyethylene is a very good dielectic, even at 10, 000 volts
 Roll an aluminium welding rod on each end, touch with crazy glue and those are your electrodes.
 I stick one out one side and the other out the opposite side. Lay down another sheet of poly on top of the foil. Using a thin foil core from the packaging, roll the assembly nice, and tightly, taping it with 3M magic mending tape. Slide it in a larger cardboard core and hot glue the ends leaving an aluminum sticking out either end. Measure the capacitance and mark it on the outside. Varnish the cardboard tube.
 They actually work very well, and are quite consistant.
 They come out quite large compared to commercial capacitors, but they handle high voltage pretty well, if not better.
 It is fun to be able to actually make a serious electronic component from scratch, using ordinary, easy to obtain materials.
 Card board concrete forms?
 Cheers Warren
 
 
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 On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:23 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
   Hi Sven,
 
 The glass is just a dielectric that looses the electric field after being discharged although a small part of the field is recovered because of dielectric absorption. This could be felt on the old CRT screens after a spark discharge. Then by waiting a little while the voltage would partly recover and could make another spark when discharged once again.
 
 MIT dissection of a charged Leiden Jar capacitor:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg
 
 Changing the dielectric of a charged capacitor from air to plastic and back again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n6xLdwaT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n6xLdwaT0
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <s.friedrich@...> mailto:s.friedrich@... wrote :
 
 
 
 Hi Norman, that would mean the glass looks like an electret!?!. For high capacities you need a lot of space for 10 uF. Greetings Sven
 
 
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   Warren & Sven!  Regarding capacitors (condenser) (Leyden Jars) I had opportunity to talk to Ken Shoulders (RIP) at New Energy Conference, Denver back in 1995. I asked him what kind of power supply he used to charge his discharge caps to do the charged cluster experiments. He said he charged the caps with an electrostatic machine since what you are doing is potentialize the plates of the cap with HVDC to displace the electrons in the dielectric.  The reason that Leyden Jars carry such a huge amount of power is in the thick (1/4 inch) crown glass (optic clear glass) that has a huge electron displacement.  The modern capacitors have very thin film dielectrics and the old technology has been lost.  Most people (Most on here) do not know how a condenser (capacitor) really works.  Take the three pail experiments  back in the old day!  You have an outer pail (conductor) with a positive charge (+) a middle pail (dielectric, glass) and an inner pail (conductor) negative charge (-).   Charge the apparatus up with HV electrostatics. take it apart and you find no charge on the components.  put it back together and the original charge is present!  This proves that the HV potential is stored within the dielectric by electron displacement.  this is very old stuff done by Faraday way back when.   If you have a very thick dielectric like a good Leyden Jar there is a lot of power available here!  I would make condensers of soda lime glass (water clear with no metals) for my energy storage that you recover from Neutral Spike experiments. These could be flat plate stacks with thin foil conductors and 1/8th inch thick glass.  Do not worry about the HV aspects since this is the break-over limits of your caps.   Sure they will hold a 500KV charge (properly designed) but you are working at 1500VDC.
 
 
 On 4/24/2018 12:40 PM, s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Hello Warren,
 
 I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it acts like a vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can capture the energy and then discharged in a transformer, you have normal energy as we know it.
 
 I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest impedance and am now at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.
 
 I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect them in series for smaller capacities and the transmission side with 2x 440V suppressor diodes in series, short circuit so that the voltage can not go above 1000V to protect the diode plug.
 
 If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is smaller or I hope to be able to further reduce the effects on the transverter (3-phase transformer).
 
 I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and capacitive transformer, it is in German but you can translate yes.
 The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser, a light bulb sucks energy over the earth and it brings to light.
 
 http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM
 
 
 regards
 
 Sven

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