Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity.

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Please read the details regarding this fantastic electrostatic generator 
and answer my question as to where the electrons are coming from.  In 
high school science, we were told that influence machines or 
electrostatic generators sheared electrons from the air dielectric 
surrounding the device.  Sounds reasonable! As I studied the various 
Influence machine designs and built many of them, I was fascinated with 
Felici and his machines because they posed a problem with the accepted 
idea of electron source.   Since the Felici machine runs in a sealed 
environment of .999 pure hydrogen gas at an elevated pressure of 25 
atmospheres (350 PSI) and considering the fact that hydrogen atom has 
one electron and one proton, it follows to ask the question as to where 
the electrons are coming from to yield the HARD electrical output at 
such high voltages and unusual currents for an influence machine.

Cylinder size ( mm) 	140 	140 	140 	240 	240 	300 	300 	Available 
approx. power 	300 W 	400 W 	385 W 	2 kW 	2 kW 	2.5 kW 	2.5 kW 	Number 
of poles 	2 	4 	6 	4 	8 	2 	4 	Max. voltage ( kV) 	300 	160 	110 	250 
140 	600 	300 	Max. current ( mA) 	
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Hal Puthoff published a paper for the Scientific Journals Spontaneaus 
Hydrogen from the space background.  When you steal electrons from a 
hydrogen gas you are left with a proton rich field which sucks in 
electrons from the space background to reconstitute the hydrogen atoms.  
So in effect you have a 2.5KW electrostatic generator doing exactly what 
you have been looking for.  I'll take 300KVDC at 8 mA (2.5KW) hard DC 
power any day!  Thoughts please! Norm
On 4/26/2018 7:06 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> shit, fuck, dick, cunt, prick ! ( to make it pass the sensor bots )
>
> going back to electrets , avoid plastics having titanium dioxide 
> (anti-static compound) unit can be heated to near melt and be 
> permanently charged !
>
> reread all on electrets !  and on testatica  ( testakrica )
>
> (H)  (yahoo still sucks shit )
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
> Norman
> Do tey ordinary kitchen foil and 6 or 10 mil polyethylene plastic sheet.
> The polyethylene is a very good dielectic, even at 10, 000 volts
> Roll an aluminium welding rod on each end, touch with crazy glue and 
> those are your electrodes.
> I stick one out one side and the other out the opposite side. Lay down 
> another sheet of poly on top of the foil. Using a thin foil core from 
> the packaging, roll the assembly nice, and tightly, taping it with 3M 
> magic mending tape. Slide it in a larger cardboard core and hot glue 
> the ends leaving an aluminum sticking out either end. Measure the 
> capacitance and mark it on the outside. Varnish the cardboard tube.
> They actually work very well, and are quite consistant.
> They come out quite large compared to commercial capacitors, but they 
> handle high voltage pretty well, if not better.
> It is fun to be able to actually make a serious electronic component 
> from scratch, using ordinary, easy to obtain materials.
> Card board concrete forms?
> Cheers Warren
>
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>         On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:23 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
>         <[email protected]> wrote:
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>         Hi Sven,
>
>         The glass is just a dielectric that looses the electric field
>         after being discharged although a small part of the field is
>         recovered because of dielectric absorption
>         <https://wiki2.org/en/Dielectric_absorption>. This could be
>         felt on the old CRT screens after a spark discharge. Then by
>         waiting a little while the voltage would partly recover and
>         could make another spark when discharged once again.
>
>         MIT dissection of a charged Leiden Jar capacitor:
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg
>
>         Changing the dielectric of a charged capacitor from air to
>         plastic and back again:
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n6xLdwaT0
>
>         Regards
>         Ole
>
>
>
>         ---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :
>
>
>         Hi Norman, that would mean the glass looks like an
>         electret!?!. For high capacities you need a lot of space for
>         10 uF. Greetings Sven
>
>         Von Samsung Mobile gesendet
>
>
>         -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>         Von: "Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY]"
>         Datum:25.04.2018 15:13 (GMT+01:00)
>         An: [email protected]
>         Betreff: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the
>         capacity.
>
>         Warren & Sven! Regarding capacitors (condenser) (Leyden Jars)
>         I had opportunity to talk to Ken Shoulders (RIP) at New Energy
>         Conference, Denver back in 1995. I asked him what kind of
>         power supply he used to charge his discharge caps to do the
>         charged cluster experiments. He said he charged the caps with
>         an electrostatic machine since what you are doing is
>         potentialize the plates of the cap with HVDC to displace the
>         electrons in the dielectric.  The reason that Leyden Jars
>         carry such a huge amount of power is in the thick (1/4 inch)
>         crown glass (optic clear glass) that has a huge electron
>         displacement.  The modern capacitors have very thin film
>         dielectrics and the old technology has been lost.  Most people
>         (Most on here) do not know how a condenser (capacitor) really
>         works.  Take the three pail experiments  back in the old day! 
>         You have an outer pail (conductor) with a positive charge (+)
>         a middle pail (dielectric, glass) and an inner pail
>         (conductor) negative charge (-).   Charge the apparatus up
>         with HV electrostatics. take it apart and you find no charge
>         on the components.  put it back together and the original
>         charge is present! This proves that the HV potential is stored
>         within the dielectric by electron displacement. this is very
>         old stuff done by Faraday way back when.   If you have a very
>         thick dielectric like a good Leyden Jar there is a lot of
>         power available here!  I would make condensers of soda lime
>         glass (water clear with no metals) for my energy storage that
>         you recover from Neutral Spike experiments. These could be
>         flat plate stacks with thin foil conductors and 1/8th inch
>         thick glass.  Do not worry about the HV aspects since this is
>         the break-over limits of your caps.   Sure they will hold a
>         500KV charge (properly designed) but you are working at 1500VDC.
>
>
>         On 4/24/2018 12:40 PM, s.friedrich@...
>         <mailto:s.friedrich@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>             Hello Warren,
>>
>>             I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it
>>             acts like a vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can
>>             capture the energy and then discharged in a transformer,
>>             you have normal energy as we know it.
>>
>>             I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest
>>             impedance and am now at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.
>>
>>             I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect
>>             them in series for smaller capacities and the
>>             transmission side with 2x 440V suppressor diodes in
>>             series, short circuit so that the voltage can not go
>>             above 1000V to protect the diode plug.
>>
>>             If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is
>>             smaller or I hope to be able to further reduce the
>>             effects on the transverter (3-phase transformer).
>>
>>             I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and
>>             capacitive transformer, it is in German but you can
>>             translate yes.
>>             The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser,
>>             a light bulb sucks energy over the earth and it brings to
>>             light.
>>
>>             http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM
>>
>>
>>             regards
>>
>>             Sven
>>
>
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