Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Capacitor and how to reach the capacity.

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Hi Sven,

The glass is just a dielectric that looses the electric field after being discharged although a small part of the field is recovered because of dielectric absorption https://wiki2.org/en/Dielectric_absorption. This could be felt on the old CRT screens after a spark discharge. Then by waiting a little while the voltage would partly recover and could make another spark when discharged once again.

MIT dissection of a charged Leiden Jar capacitor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg

Changing the dielectric of a charged capacitor from air to plastic and back again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n6xLdwaT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n6xLdwaT0

Regards
Ole

 

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 Hi Norman, that would mean the glass looks like an electret!?!. For high capacities you need a lot of space for 10 uF. Greetings Sven
 

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Von: "Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY]" 
Datum:25.04.2018 15:13 (GMT+01:00) 
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 Warren & Sven!  Regarding capacitors (condenser) (Leyden Jars) I had opportunity to talk to Ken Shoulders (RIP) at New Energy Conference, Denver back in 1995. I asked him what kind of power supply he used to charge his discharge caps to do the charged cluster experiments. He said he charged the caps with an electrostatic machine since what you are doing is potentialize the plates of the cap with HVDC to displace the electrons in the dielectric.  The reason that Leyden Jars carry such a huge amount of power is in the thick (1/4 inch) crown glass (optic clear glass) that has a huge electron displacement.  The modern capacitors have very thin film dielectrics and the old technology has been lost.  Most people (Most on here) do not know how a condenser (capacitor) really works.  Take the three pail experiments  back in the old day!  You have an outer pail (conductor) with a positive charge (+) a middle pail (dielectric, glass) and an inner pail (conductor) negative charge (-).   Charge the apparatus up with HV electrostatics. take it apart and you find no charge on the components.  put it back together and the original charge is present!  This proves that the HV potential is stored within the dielectric by electron displacement.  this is very old stuff done by Faraday way back when.   If you have a very thick dielectric like a good Leyden Jar there is a lot of power available here!  I would make condensers of soda lime glass (water clear with no metals) for my energy storage that you recover from Neutral Spike experiments. These could be flat plate stacks with thin foil conductors and 1/8th inch thick glass.  Do not worry about the HV aspects since this is the break-over limits of your caps.   Sure they will hold a 500KV charge (properly designed) but you are working at 1500VDC.

 
 On 4/24/2018 12:40 PM, s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hello Warren,
 
 I think in the electric field, free energy works best, it acts like a vacuum cleaner. I think even if you can capture the energy and then discharged in a transformer, you have normal energy as we know it.
 
 I have now wired the 3 phase transformer to highest impedance and am now at 1200V RMS and 1500V peak.
 
 I will install very small coupling capacitors or connect them in series for smaller capacities and the transmission side with 2x 440V suppressor diodes in series, short circuit so that the voltage can not go above 1000V to protect the diode plug.
 
 If the diode plug capacitors are larger, the voltage is smaller or I hope to be able to further reduce the effects on the transverter (3-phase transformer).
 
 I found here an interesting site for the Testatika and capacitive transformer, it is in German but you can translate yes.
 The drawings are clearly but above all where a condenser, a light bulb sucks energy over the earth and it brings to light.
 
 http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM http://www.hcrs.at/TESTA.HTM
 
 
 regards
 
 Sven

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