AW: Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: strobobanger

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Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>

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Hello Normen, so I do not understand the insulation version. The winding on the transformer is always isolated. The core is earthed. This lights up. With the diode plug system I have a emp machine that earth potential is free through the resonant 3 phase transformer. The transformer I use for it is very powerful with 6.3 kva. I wanted to increase the voltage to 800 to 900 V and reduce the capacity for a harder and shorter pulse. The Scrs I have are designed to 1.6 kv. Greetings Sven

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Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Datum:03.04.2018  21:54  (GMT+01:00) 
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Yes! Sven, if you isolate the windings and capacitor from a "ground path " with the transformer iron grounded via earth ground!   You have to use a scope to determine when you get "supersaturation" on the B/H curve.  To simulate the motor "locked rotor" condition "Super saturation" you would have to have a matched secondary which is "shorted" to drive iron into saturation! Transformers are not as easy to drive into "super saturation as is motors!  Hector will tell you that you will know it when you hear "The pig squeal"! Just as a miss tuned "RV"  it will "Growl at you", "big time"!

On 4/3/2018 2:31 PM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 

Then you could do that with a transformer if the iron core is grounded? Greetings Sven

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Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" 
Datum:03.04.2018 21:22 (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
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Yes! George, very easy to do if you follow the basic "rules" which is "isolation" from ground of magnetically saturated iron core and loaded capacitors which yields the "EMP" shot due to flux annihilation by capacitor dump through the windings. The "EMP shot comes from earth ground and iron motor frame. works every time as a "one shot" event. The motor iron has to be in a "super saturated" condition which is seen on a scope shot of the "B/H" curve.Scale it up but be careful cause we do not know how to capture and harness the event!

On 4/3/2018 10:12 AM, george gray [email protected]                   [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
Norm,

Very interesting explanation of how the EMP was caused, and it seems that it is repeatable, and easy to do on a larger scale making a bigger boom of destruction.
Thanks mate.

George




On Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 10:20:51 pm AEST, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 
(H), From my very first encounter with EMP back in 1981 while working as Director of Research & Development for a ceiling fan manufacturer, was doing final acceptance,destructive testing of new production samples from                                         China.  The motor samples were a tall stack Emerson copy that had a reverse feature. (1/6th HP).  The reverse feature was accomplished by moving the run capacitor from one end of the shading windings to the other end via a double pole , double throw Carling toggle switch.   Hookup wire was 18 ga. zip cord 2 conductor.  Motor drew 1.75A @120VAC = 210 watts. Testing included severe loading by running motor full speed forward, then reversing (toggle switch) which caused motor to grind to a stop , then spool back up to speed in reverse rotation. After several reversal operations, the toggle switch exploded with a bright green flash and the bang of a big fire cracker. Tear down of motor and inspection found no damage to the 22 ga. motor windings nor to the 18 ga. internal switch circuit wiring. ????  The Carling 30 amp rated double pole, double throw switch was totally destroyed with contacts vaporized.  After vaporizing several switches in subsequent test, I called in an Electrical Engineer Professor from University of Texas to observe the abnormal operation. We destroyed another switch then changed the reverse switching to a large double throw motor reversing contactor rated at 60 A.    The contactor exploded with total destruction of contacts with bang of huge firecracker and bright green flash.  The Professor could not explain the destructive force created from such small wiring and only a 210 watt line draw from motor. The 20 amp panel breaker did not trip in any of these episodes.   Here is the explanation as to what caused this whole scenario.    After studying the schematic of the motor wiring plans and comparing with the (as assembled) by little ladies in tennis shoes (China), it was found that reversing switch was wired on neutral side of line input instead of the hot side.  All                                         generation of the EMP shot requires that you isolate a charged capacitor and saturated                                         motor windings to create the effect you are looking for.  The little Chinese Ladies created the isolation effect by incorrect switch placement.  by complying to motor specifications, the problem was                                         corrected, but I learned how to create the EMP easily.   Years later I did the exact same transit switching isolation of charge in the 5 ton A/C compressor which was a magnum version of the little ceiling fan shaded pole motor event.   The single phase 230VAC, 5HP motor uses L1 & L2 line with no neutral in the schematic.  Motor frame and chassis is bonded to earth ground.   The start capacitor is 45mfd and run is 5mfd. See schematic:


By using an overcurrent relay in                                       the contactor control circuit you                                       can adjust the contactor trip current at peak locked rotor saturation current which is 82mamps for this type of motor.                                       when contactor drops open the entire motor/capacitor wiring is isolated from a neutral return, with only the motor iron and frame bonded to earth ground.  the cancellation of magnetic flux and capacitor charge developes a Neutral spike out of the earth bonded side of the circuit. You did not destroy the energy, you just changed its form into a Aetheric event.  Yes, Hector it is quite a sight to see this event. Have fun.  Norm

On 4/2/2018 6:57 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
ASK NORMAN HE KNOWS WHAT A NEUTRAL SPIKE CAN DO .....!!!


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Sounds like doomsday-physics!

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Am 02.04.2018 um 21:18 schrieb arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]:
 
If the coil is OU the coilbanger will keep flashing forever  or will simply go into self destruct mode by gunning itself to a huge EMP event ...\\

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