Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: buck plug ...

Database ID: 106369
2018-02-13T23:53:33+00:00
onielsen2000 <[email protected]>

← View thread

Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

Body

Hi Sven,

"If it were just a mere sloshing of energy, voltage and current would not rise so much, but would have to stay at the same level as the input energy."
The voltage and current must increase when energy is increased. The energy can be directly calculated from knowing the LC-tank size and the peak voltage or peak current.

"Actually, the flyback in an induction is the boosting component. If there were no stored magnetic field energy, the energy would not increase in a resonant circuit even if it is blind."
Again knowing the stored energy of the magnetic field (i.e. calculated from the inductance and the current) is what determines the peak of the flyback voltage depending on what impedance the coil looks into. A high impedance flyback load must give a high flyback voltage peak as the current must and will stay continuous at the change in impedance by opening the circuit. The voltage to drive the same current at increased impedance makes the voltage step up at the rate of impedance changing. E.g. doubling the impedance requires doubling the flyback voltage to drive the same current through it. Thus the voltage is doubled but the time it lasts is halved.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole,

yes, the energy spills back and forth like a wave. A wave power station is also there because the waves work through the up and down waves.

I think we divert some of the reactive power to let them do some work and then bring them back so the main LC does not notice what's missing.

If it were just a mere sloshing of energy, voltage and current would not rise so much, but would have to stay at the same level as the input energy.

Actually, the flyback in an induction is the boosting component. If there were no stored magnetic field energy, the energy would not increase in a resonant circuit even if it is blind.

Really hard to grasp this topic.

Maybe I should try the resonance experiment with my 3 spotlights, now I have 1200W as a light bulb in 3 lamps, if they shine bright with resonance energy that would be a confirmation of the energy, of course, only if the energy in the input source does not rise sharply.

regards

Sven

References

<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>

Headers

Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Sender [email protected]
X-Apparently-To [email protected]
X-Received (qmail 34393 invoked by uid 102); 13 Feb 2018 23:53:51 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.193.84.33) by m14.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2018 23:53:51 -0000
X-Received (qmail 20494 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2018 23:53:50 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mta1006.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (98.138.100.121) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2018 23:53:50 -0000
X-Original-Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Received-SPF pass (domain of yahoogroups.com designates 66.163.186.43 as permitted sender)
X-YMailISG tNOD9dYWLDtFB6_aAuDrJnPbKKjqYcMTODN1VBI.YbEQs8yA TXR2jYC6.Bwcx_.dROc_.E9DqXNHnyqoDjZoXhzbPcr4V1_FZelh8rG5jwoM MMERJ8lnQvJIOQ3001N6qf1AvkfH.8f5LGxHMuC3ue9BUy5vn2iu8FTBwK.6 DzhtmTF4N6sacqa1EavTCTHwHEYRvDPsmV1MVxdz78VGDp70jAhDFl7ET1Tc DQPVn9I.JKnYl97Y86gE_allAL5Z8ANUxqmWKaZP3bJzZqALd._mFv_sAtII PIhgLWjhK_1FBcznPAwBsChrFI81he87QYCX2PM_IrGllS.xCzOPR8v1_H7I aCNgi0pKyIRzDnB_GdW4R5jWfvDye6V_OPRmZg8Hm1.hf07BNrjua4ETISHN .C3J3k6zj299ZlvsceK754ggWctPs4iuxtElXS_AqDemK1acW7n0ZLjf7uaP YisiPrzR6RwgiX34FjDgk.zUkKIGa_BE1fkj290UjVx78aLubMHis1tBx5Oq ucUfoHLKpFHBpBuUnVLXDbk9z42lZDJedSnzmkL7tXEGB7WfNjaSWFIjagke wokVBH9WwY3uV6H7VsJjt21Tlg4RzdZU3056yjqVaWx.NmeCVClU.RenoVNy fMYZTwxzYLdNjeG79Ipz.DydZZGu2WAcxuJR2sdznTS9a54pjYTC4MsZCBE. FdkBRl_hPrsukM6HuZwhZ6gJsxJ15iCxXstAYi1yMGJTpL_Yjw.LWyc1Tt1e hpHp0Gpu7bLOrtafiDGnwHuSgutMbFUAXwVzmIRUnaDuJ0q8TYhfGbpSspmg RI1zjT9yUpmg4lr2HSavtAIxEo26f4Kzn_JVLms5I6QuBrem2OHtuh3EYXqj Ue03MxTc9FJnai3LTeFjAvP1ANu6TqEQNE.6NZdVa4TKyRx5DinznP6a3ByF 2Yif9eKgjUWmAXtr1LLTzM9j1KVS4rA5YYElo5n9ZgjZQofQEce2CDykJ_ek axPAyldNrCHpicBnytgyCaFhAF7djjDdLhbLEDJ90yk2rlNshCT.AGd2lvWG GdvLjTIUqYbEpJd_lXZplzqrFB0kI9EuRVw12NvmqQ8WHrnud2uPh8LIEDxw zdxivTDXG5UMM6TAN_bGc3rP0repyaILabWER3rxhNiIz1Om6Cb4Ds8yCSeS anNTVuBcHKaPJjU8.Wm1JRm1gXLm1TiXVK3XaH8QPmY1jQBKI_lNgg--
Authentication-Results mta1006.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com from=yahoogroups.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=permerror (bad sig)
X-Received from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO sonic326-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (66.163.186.43) by mta1006.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:53:50 +0000
X-Received from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic326.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:53:50 +0000
Date Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:53:33 +0000
X-Received from [127.0.0.1] by gapi9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2018 23:53:33 -0000
To [email protected]
X-Original-Return-Path [email protected]
X-Original-From [email protected]
X-Mailer Yahoo Groups Message Poster
References <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property groups-compose
Message-ID <[email protected]>
In-Reply-To <[email protected]>
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV"
X-Originating-IP 85.81.20.46
X-Yahoo-Post-IP 85.81.20.46
Reply-To [email protected]
Subject Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: buck plug ...
X-Yahoo-Group-Post member; u=115023864; y=3T3JQMURzK2ojoT3DkVAPbMsQlL4Er_g4Z59hpzsWt4cfX6Fmi5c
X-Yahoo-Profile onielsen2000
From [email protected]