Re: [EVGRAY] Triple thick BiTT

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2018-01-25T12:02:51+11:00

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Hi Doug,
Yes you're right I have seen this one before ..have re watched it now
though.
Also I can see your question more clearly & makes me question my own
understanding of this design.
The Lenz or Back emf flux always opposes the field that created it, so
direction of Back flux is always opposite to the input flux.

See in video from the direction of the arrows the input flux splits into 2
streams & circulates from the top of the input coil, (considering both
NORTH poles frozen in time)
back to the bottom of the input coil on both sides of the trannie, CCW and
CW.
The input coil supplies the mmf magnetising force for this to happen.

Without any loads applied 100% of this input flux circulates right there on
its own 50% on left side 50% on right side, no Back flux is generated.
It's only when we apply our load that things start to get complicated.

Now when loads are applied, Back flux starts generating it's own North
pole, at the top of both output coils, flux from this looks for someway to
get back to South pole on the other side of its own coil.
A return path in other words
Back flux "sees" 2 main paths though Thane shows 3.
Following the arrows around from 5:53 seconds on the video he talks about
high path and a very high path and a low path.

He's referring to the reluctances of each path "High"  is high reluctance
low permeabilty path .... "low" is the opposite ...the easy path.

So this total Back flux splits itself between these paths proportionate to
their "easiness to follow" & from this some must definitely find it's way
back to the input.

However I must now admit both Heinze Thane's & Naudin's JLN replications
show a reduction in current when loaded whilst mine are quite the opposite.

Guess I need to pull finger out & go back to see where I'm going wrong?

Gerry

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:15 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Hi Gerry
>
> here is link I am sure you have seen where Thane Karl HEinz himself
> explains the BiTT transformer to MIT university (something like that)
>
> My big question is WHY does the backemf flux magically seperate itself
> from the forward flix, and head backwards to the opposite secondary
> winding??
>
> why why why...I don't know all I can think of is there is a collision that
> knocks it loose (simpleton explanation)
>
> IF it works it works we do not have to ask why but so far I have built 5
> or 6 of these things and have not seen any results like in KK videao -
> maybe I need to first before anything resonate that core at some harmonic
> to get some ferroresonacne happening....maybe in that state the back
> currents will separate and go their own way from the forward I don't
> know.....
>
> Also that florist wire BiTT core I posted photos of, today I want to wind
> some coils and wanted 240V on primary, and about 24V on secondary so took
> apart a transformer I have now that kicks 240V down to 12V and it was
> 780ohms and 5.2ohms so started to wind very thin wire on the primary until
> I got to 780 ohms and ut was ridiculous how the heck can I possibly wind
> all that wire through those square gaps each side??? Maybe 50 strands of
> wire in parallel and connect all inseries....anyways going to give up on
> that idea I think...
>
> I need another desigh where I can disassemble the core lenths under the
> winds, put in electric drill and wind them up then reassemble...
>
> here is the at MIT BiTT link:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ&t=158s
>
> ciaoKone
>
>
>
>
> 
>

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