Re: [EVGRAY] Triple thick BiTT

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On Jan 22, 2018 6:41 PM, "Gerry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hi Doug,
> That shielded wire idea can be used with many different types of
> transformers and different situations to get some extra delay.
> It's not without some losses too..... it's just another tool for our
> arsenal.
>
> To answer what you asked about BITT transformer.
>
> "What I was trying to get at about the BiTT and the backemf forces, is
> just what is it that creates that "split" of the backemf force from the
> forward-current magnetic force, and for that backemf force to run along
> those extra transformer legs leading back to the opposite secondary, and
> not route itself back to primary???"
>
> I just try to think of the input flux and the output fluxes separately.
> Sure they both absolutely have to share a common flux path at the output
> coils.
>
> But we should keep the cause of the fluxes separate in our own mind.
>
> If the load draws no output current then there is no "Back EMF or Lenz
> flux" generated.. there is only input flux created by input ac Voltage
> source .
>
> If our BITT or other transformer has a  load connected then there will be
> an additional large Lenz flux flux generated by the load current itself.
>
>
> Flux will always take the easiest path just like current does.
> If there is a common pathway and two fluxes are travelling in opposite
> directions along that flux path, they effectively subtract from each other
> even though each one is still present.
> (Whilst the electrostatic field at right angles to the flux field will add
> to each other).
>
> If we think of the flux pathway as a single horizontal resistor hooked
> between positive terminals of 2 batteries with common earth.
> Say 1 battery supplies 1.5 Amps Left to Right through the resistor and the
> other supplies 1.0 amp Right to Left through resistor then the total
> current is only the difference of 0.5 amps Left to Right through the
> resistor.
>
> This is called "superposition theorem" and applies equally to flux paths.
> We consider each separately then algebraically add them up.
>
> Now say we could temporarily reverse the direction of current from one of
> the batteries the current would be cumulative and no longer subtractive, so
> we'd get 2.5 amps rather than 0.5 amps.
> (sort of what we're doing by timing how long the flux takes to reurn)
>
> We could call one battery the "input flux" generator and the other battery
> the "Lenz flux" generator, their causes are separate but their combination
> is cumulative in a magnetic circuit.
>
> In magnetics our horizontal "resistance" is called "reluctance" to the
> flow of flux.
>
> Like with resistors if we put 2 reluctances or reluctance paths in
> parallel.....  the input flux lines will divide between the  2 paths.
> The one with the lowest reluctance (or highest permeabitity) will
> receive the highest flux and the other path the lowest.
>
> Just like resistors we can use current divider formula to work out how
> much....
>
> say flux path A and flux path B in parallel magnetic circuit.
>
> Path A flux = total flux  x  Path B / (Path A + B)
>
> So getting back to the "flux split" in your thoughts above, the total flux
> in the output coil cores will be due to the load current being drawn and
> the input flux.
>
> The input flux is independently set by input current and ampere turns of
> input coil.
> The load flux or Lenz flux is dependent on the load current and at any
> load value this input/output flux split will be a set ratio.
>
> The Lenz flux almost always opposes the input flux which created it....so
> it subtracts from the input flux, this makes the input coil core path look
> less inductive, so it draws more current & requires an increase in drive
> current to get back to original flux value.
>
> However in the BITT the input flux is divided into two halves one
> clockwise the other counter clockwise. In the side by side toroids.
> This also splits the output Lenz fluxes A and B into two opposite phases,
> one  rotating clockwise the other counterclockwise, so the output signals
> are 180 degrees out of phase from each output coil.
>
> Now by providing a low reluctance flux pathway from one output coil core A
> to the other core B, a large proportion of the Lenz flux is routed to the
> opposite (and out of phase) coil.
> This Lenz flux from A side is now out 180 degrees phase with the Lenz
> field on B side so the Lenz fields tend to subtract and cancel each other
> out.
>
> 180 degrees out of phase.... equates to opposite directions just as in our
> battery subtractive currents example.
> Because the low reluctance pathway between A & B is so low, a smaller
> percentage ratio of the output Lenz flux finds its way back to the higher
> reluctance input circuit.
>
>
> Gerry
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>
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> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:55 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected] <[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> Hi Gerry'
>>
>> Thanks for the advice and ideas again - I agree with the AC swing
>> analogy...when I was in Germany the engineer there (HD) described just the
>> same thing in AC in his MEG and timing things just right in analogy with
>> swing...
>>
>> I understand your idea with my ORBOI motor maybe the shielding of the
>> steel to the rotor magnets will be better more efficient rather than copper
>> torroid surround a ferrite core and then the primary inside  of the copper
>> wire would be creating power each pulse too - I can imagine coils sticking
>> out from stators 15cm long with that thick copper wire jammed up the
>> middle....
>>
>>
>> What I was trying to get at about the BiTT and the backemf forces, is
>> just what is it that creates that "split" of the backemf force from the
>> forward-current magnetic force, and for that backemf force to run along
>> those extra transformer legs leading back to the opposite secondary, and
>> not route itself back to primary???
>>
>> There being thicker core material is "giving it" the path to follow, but
>> what is is that make the backemf go that way?
>>
>> This is the only way to make a BiTT really work scuh as X3 OU  in my
>> measly opinion, and that is for the backemf (and backemf only) to take that
>> route and add power to opposite secondary......if it does not, it is just a
>> fairly efficient transformer design....So my idea of how it works and why
>> it works is that there is a bucking-collision of forward and the inherent
>> back emf  and the bucking collision causes the intitial split, and once
>> split, the backemf goes over to the opposite secondary.....so what causes
>> this split?? My idea is it an inherent thing such as Leedskalin saying
>> there is always in magnetism a forward and an opposite magnetic force, and
>> perhaps the primary's magnetic force is what creates the smashing event to
>> the secondary, and this secondary and primary must share the exact same
>> time flow  in first place, but when the primary brick wall oif magnetism
>> gets in the way, there is the bucking event....if there is time delay,
>> perhaps now there will not be a bucking event because either the primary or
>> the secondary will not have the exact same collision force and one will
>> dominate (whichever is stronger) and the backemf flux will not be
>> "dislodged" from the forward magnetic force rather they will continue
>> together locked tight and just go back to primary causing the extra draw
>> there...
>>
>> ciaoKone
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