Re: [EVGRAY] Triple thick BiTT

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Hi Doug,
I never have had any luck trying to use steel wire as a conductor, it has
far too much series resistance.
Iron doesn't have as many electrons available for conduction like copper
does.

Those coils at bottom of page at your link ....maybe can leave the core out
altogether and make them out of coiled steel florist wire with copper
through the centre as I showed?
Dunno about coupling factor losses or vibration etc...... I haven't
explored any of this.

The higher tensile wire seems to work better than soft stuff.
In my scope shot there were not enough copper winds on the primary so input
current was almost in phase with the input voltage.

Yes I agree  just like in your description above, the ac drive signal is
like a person pushing a swing.
If the swings coming back toward us.... we have to put in extra effort to
stop it , reverse it's direction to make it swing away from us.

If we can delay the swings arrival till it runs out of puff on it's own
...much easier to push.
If we can delay it further and push it while it swings away from us even
less energy required.

Since this energy is stored in the ether (magnetic field energy) it is
quite capable of collapsing on it's own without any push.
So our pushing after the point it reverses away from us results in a net
gain.

The nice thing about delaying method is that the energy gains appear in the
output circuit rather than back at the input.
Because often our signal sources cannot handle the large out of phase
reactive powers coming back at them.

Gerry
ps To make long runs of this coiled wire I do it in a battery drill chuck,
initially jamming end of wire in the chuck alongside back end of a drill
bit.
I wind about 10 turns or so then take it off and reverse it so input feed
of wire comes in at the bottom nearest the chuck.
I slide a small steel washer up against chuck jaws & make sure wire grips
the drill bit as it rotates.
Allowing the coiled end to rotate freely or it will break from stress
flexing.

I'm sure it's not the only way to get input to output delay it's just an
example of what's possible.



On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:05 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hi Gerry
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> Great ideas and quick work for easy experiment....for sure you have
> time-shifted (delayed lenz) it ....if this was a generator coil with
> rotating magnets in rotor sweeping past, now you could get speed up under
> load at a certain frequency....Thane Karl Heinz in permanent-magnet rotor
> rgenerators,  will achieve this delayed lenz  with high impedance coil
> winds which take a bit of time to saturate/create a strong magnetic
> field....so very interesting  your method to also get delayed lenz....
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> maybe not so much florist wire and leave gaps in winds and use high
> impedance coils so the coil does not have to work so hard to
> penetrate that steel wire? I don't know just idea....
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> Also it semms to me (but I dojnt know for sure!) that what the BiTT is
> doing is just giving the BACKEMF FLOW (that inherent to all magnetic
> fields) a differnent road to follow that will not smash it against the
> primary and "reflect" into extra primary draw.....and to make this happen,
> you need to have a sort of head-on collision between the "forward" flow and
> the backemf/backwards flow and it is this collision that forces the backemf
> to take another much easier route and road to follow, and that is to the
> other side of the transformer via those extra legs top and bottom.....seems
> to me (but I don't know) if you do cause a delayed lenz effect, now there
> is also a delay in the backemf flow too, and now the forward flow and the
> backemf flow do not "Collide" so forcefully as one or the other has become
> delayed as compared to the other!....and the magnetic field flow through
> the transformer does not want "So much" to take that road back to the
> opposite secondary.....I don't know if this is clear but I think it
> requires a sort of bucking effect to knock the flux over into the extra
> transformer leg that leads back to the opposite secondary.....so you want
> ADDITIVE power to happen in the secondaries, not blocking/reflective power
> going back to primary as in normal transformers (as you know)  and "maybe"
> what does cause that magnetic flow to go onto that extra leg is the abrupt
> and timed-together collision of backemf with forward current flow and this
> collision must be storng and forceful collision and maybe your delayed lenz
> thing has weakened it...(but I domnt knoiw just thinking!)
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> So this has all got me thinking too - if you know how an ORBO motor works,
> it has a ferrous core "tube" and then windings go around and inside  and
> through the tube ""torroid wound" not solenoid type)
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> And then rotor magnets pull themselves naturally to the core, and there is
> apulse of current into the torroid winds to shield/cancel the magnetic
> field of the rotor magnets, and so the rotor magnet sweeps right past with
> no pull-back to it and they actually go very good, a good
> ORBOmotor,.....the first one I made went great I used ferrite tube cores
> and had it Muller-style (axial) with the cores and torroid coils each side
> of a rotor with neodymium mangets about same siaxe and shape as the ferrite
> tube cores....
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> Anyways your idea to wind electromagnetic coils with florist wire got me
> thinking (thanks!) to replace the ferrite cores in my  ORBO design with
> coils wound with florist wire - why not?  Now wind the torroid winds inside
> and around the florist wire coil/core.....just as I  did with the ferrite
> tube.....then pulse the torroid with current at just the right time, to
> cancel the magnetic field of the rotor magnet, just like before in
> ferrite-cored ORBO motor....Now you can also pulse the florist wire coil
> too, to be attractive and/or pulse it to repel too (experiment to try) and
> where this might be really great is to make it a pure-generator, and the
> inner florist wire coil  just pulls the rotor magnet to it, then switch
> iinto load the torroid-wind around the florist wire coil at same period of
> time in rotation as you would to get the ORBO motor-effect and "perhaps"
> the generator/torroid will use lenz law induction effect to cancel or
> shield the rotor magnet field around the florist wire core - ORBO motors do
> not care which way you send in current to cause the magnetic shield effect
> so maybe this might work having the generator-torroid coil hit load at same
> time you would pulse the torroid in an ORBO motor to make rotor sweep past
> easily.....I don't know I have more ideas with this idea but will stop here
> b before I get too scatterbrained about it....here is link to my ORBO motor
> I built maybe 8 years ago: look at the coils at bottom of page and imagine
> cores to be florist wire cores instead of the ferrite tubes and then
> imagine the possibilities after that
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> https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/orbo-design-motor
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